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Polemical End For Ghost Of The Robot

Friday 18 June 2004, by Webmaster

Ghost Of The Robot Keyboardist, Steven Sellers find James Marsters announcement selfish.

James Marsters announcement here : http://www.buffy.nu/article.php3?id_article=4960

You’ve all been so great over the years and I consider myself lucky to have met such an interesting group of people. I am happy to say that I consider a lot of you as new friends. It would be a shameful to let all of this "dissolve". Charlie and I have had a plan B for quite some time now so here it comes... Gods of the Radio has a new website nearly completed. Our new self titled album should be done by the end of summer and ready for fall with perhaps, a single some time soon. We will now be able to go full throttle with the music. Kevin will of course be with us Sean however, will not.

I don’t mind that James has gone in pursuit of acting though, I do find his official posting on the subject quite selfish.

After the New York shows I went to Bad Lauterberg, Germany for a week only to come back and find his posting on our website with no prior notification.

We hope that you will continue to support the music and enjoy it as much as we do making it for you. Many Thanks.

Steven Sellers


11 Forum messages

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    18 June 2004 19:18, by Anonymous
    Who did he expect would announce it? How did he expect him to announce it if he and Charlie didn’t agree? I feel sorry for James, he probably really thought they were friends and really hoped that there would be no hard feelings. Obviously, it isn’t "him" they’re going to be missing, or that they didn’t want to go. Well this is their chance to show what they said they wanted to show: what they can do without him.
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    18 June 2004 20:01, by Bill
    Please, if these clowns want to take a few kicks at their gravy train when it ceases to run, is it really a matter of discussion for a Buffy board?
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    18 June 2004 21:31, by dole
    If they want to damage the honor of JM, It will be foolish...They cannot get their old fan’s support.
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    19 June 2004 02:59, by Kay
    James selfish?? please!! James is a very considered person you can see it in the way he gives himself to people and the things he does for his fans. They’re just angered because the days of glory are over. Maybe the Band have it’s on fans but Come on! lets face it, without James, the band is nothing. I’m just sorry James have to go through this, Give Him A Break!!
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    19 June 2004 04:34, by kiterkay
    These guys do not deseve a forum on a Buffy and Angel board. Other boards are not pandering to this and I really wish this one wouldn’t either. Please!
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    19 June 2004 06:31, by Eduardo

    you two are vieweing the issue as JM’s fans. I am also a fan of him because of BtVS and ATS, but I think the subject is kinda shady. I as an outsider find it strange the whole thing and immediately thought "there’s more to it than a simple pursuing of another thing. I bet there is" After barely released a cd? SThere’s more to it.

    Bands are dificult thing...h well

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    19 June 2004 10:06, by Yuka
    Excuse me?? It surely has to do something with this board for it was James’ band. And if you didn’t like what they were doing it’s your problem. But guess what, some people actually didn’t just went to their concerts to see James but also to hear their music. I really understand Steve and Charlie. Why didn’t James talk to them about quitting GotR? I mean, even if they didn’t agree... When you’re "friends" you should talk about such a thing and not just do it and then... "Oops... Sorry, you didn’t know? What a shame..." I thought James would care more about his group, his music and his FRIENDS.
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    20 June 2004 00:25, by Anonymous
    The band members TRY TO DAMAGE HIS CREDABILITY?!!! I think he’s done that very well by himself!! Stop licking his arse people and wake up and smell the red hot roasting coffee beans!!
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    21 June 2004 00:27, by blue

    Personally I like reading anything that has to do with GOTR, because I’m a fan. I’m also a fan of Buffy/Ats and the actors and everyone involved there. So for me, it’s convenient that GOTR news shows up here. The people complaining never complained when all the news was nice and James-loving. They’re mad now because "OMG! Someone criticized the golden and perfect JM!!!! OMG NOOOOOO!!!". That’s what it is, and it’s stupid.

    To everyone who is saying "how dare they criticize James, he’s so nice and polite!" Yes, of course he’s nice and polite to everyone at conventions and the fans he meets. He gets PAID, and it’s excellent PR. I’m not saying he’s a bad guy, I’m saying take it with a grain of salt. None of us here know him or are friends with him. We don’t know what he’s like behind closed doors, and we can’t judge how he gets along with the other band members, and we have no idea how they reacted to his "dissolving" the group.

    Also. James has said time and time again, and conventions and on tv appearances, that GOTR is not "his" band. It’s a collaboration. Every member counts. Heck, Charlie writes most of their songs/music! That said, it’s totally out of line to start yelling that GOTR was "his" band. It’s not true, and he’s said so himself.

    I myself was upset when I read James’ announcement. It sounded like it was a unilateral decision. More importantly, I was upset that he wasn’t giving me a chance to keep listening to the band, without him. I say, if he wants to devote himself entirely to acting, that’s a perfectly fine decision. I’m not going to hold it against him.

    But IMO, it would have been better for him to leave the band, not "dissolve" it. Let the guys stay together without him, even if they use a different name. Let the fans listen to the band they love. Charlie writes most of their music anyway, and James has said in interviews/at conventions that with Charlie’s material only, they probably have enough right now that they could make the 2nd album a double disc. That tells me that even if James left and took his songs with him, the band would still have enough material to release a cd. James isn’t financing this cd himself like he did with the first one, so that shouldn’t be a huge problem.

    Basically, I’m upset that instead of just leaving the band, as members of bands do all the time, he got rid of it all together. I don’t know if that bit at the top of the article, about the fall Gods of the Radio release is accurate. If it is, I’m a little happier. If it’s not, I’m more upset. I listened to clips of their songs online because James was in the band. I bought the cd and the t-shirt because I love their music and their lyrics. The band’s gone now, and they may or may not release their second album. That’s upsetting, whether it was a decision made only by James or whether they made the decision together (as a band should do).

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    25 June 2004 12:35, by Nessa

    If there were creative differences and JM was having problems whilst Steve was out of the country it may just have been a communications breakdown.....everyone thinking someone else would tell him.

    JM could probably have handled it a bit better but what’s done is done.

    Plz remember he was about twice the age of the youngest band member’s so there as bound to be differences in personalities, maturity, outlook of the world and career’s.

    Besides, if there has been "a plan B for some time now" then Steve must have had an inkling that this might happen.

    BTW, why is this posted here.... Steve is nothing to do with Buffy or Angel..... you fan’s of the band who were unhappy about JM’s Buffy fanbase being the main fanbase of the band.... and dissing JM.... I understand where you are coming from..... but then why post over on this site?

    Does anyone else find that slightly hypocritical???

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    6 July 2004 04:52, by txjmfan

    I agree with the comment about why is this even posted here. It’s a comment on a band that is no longer associated with anyone from BtVS or AtS. But, since it was posted & everyone is giving their two cents, I’ll add mine.

    James’ main focus was never the band or even his music. It has always been his craft, acting. He even reminds us all of that in the letter informing the fans of the dissolution of the band. Steve & the rest of the guys are focused on the music. I think James’ decision to dissolve the band wasn’t just made because he was being selfish or because it was becoming too much of a stress on himself with new projects coming up. IMO, it was also done out of fairness to the other guys who deserved to have a front man (or not) that had the time to make the band the best it could be. The band’s rehearsal schedule usually revolved around James’ busy schedule. Now, they are free of that restriction. I think the fact that Steve & the rest of the guys had a plan B brewing makes it clear that they knew something like this was on the horizon.

    Also, if you think about it, it’s probably a good thing that the rest of the band is no longer known as Ghost of the Robot because so many fans identify that name with James Marsters. The name change makes it clear that there’s been a personnel change. Now, they will have the chance to find out how much of their fan base was there for the group or there for James.

    I’m not defending anyone here. Regardless of whether James’ had the right to make the decision or not, what’s done is done. Arguing about whether what he did was right or wrong is pointless. In this situation, there really isn’t a good guy or a bad guy, a right or wrong. It’s just life & people dealing with what it hands them the best they know how.