Sarah Michelle Gellar says she was shocked by sex scenes in Buffy The Vampire Slayer.
She claims some of the scenes were like a bondage movie, reports the Daily Star.
"It became very S&M and I felt degraded as an actress," Gellar tells this month’s Elle magazine.
The 27-year-old actress says the series left her bruised and tired.
"It was exhausting - physically and emotionally," she says. "There were at least two fight scenes in every episode. I never wore skirts for years because of all the bruises."
There’s a phrase that says: don’t spit into the fountain you drink from. and that’s exectly what SMG is doing. Buffy gave her the fame as an actress, I also believe it will be her biggest acting role in her life, and still she spits in it’s face and her fans.
Degraded as an actress?
Wouldn’t that require some actual acting talent to qualify her in the first place..?
Sarah - Please, please, come down off that pedestal you somehow seem to think you belong on. For the last two seasons of Buffy at least, you were an undeniably average `actress` at best, something made painfully obvious once your co-stars came into their own.
Is it just me or is anyone else sick of the whining and ego from the ex-Buffy `star` since the show ended?
many of us knew how much Sarah hated the season of sick sex they portrayed on Buffy. this isn’t anything new and james marsters has agreed with all of her views. for people to think the buffy/spike pairing was all about love disgusts those of us who saw it for what it was. I commend her for speaking out finally. Sarah has always been a classy lady and this continues to show it.
She should worry more about the character traits her character showed in seasons six and seven. As for the sex, it might have been a bad idea, and Marsters might have far more room to complain, but she was always clothed and was not shown in compromising positions. She often mentions the balcony scene. I challenge anyone to watch her posture and face in that scene and think that anything is happening. For anything heinous to have happened one of them would have had to be very oddly made. I’m really tired of listening to her complain.
Sarah is so arrogant that she thinks she is better as an actress(or actor) than everyone else?
I felt that she degraded as an actress by those remarks of hers.
I DONT KNOW ABOUT YOU BUT SARAH GELLAR...HARVARD MAN....WAS MORE DEGRADING.....I DID NOT LIKE IT,FASTFORWARD-ING MOST OF THE MOVIE..I FOUND THE SCENES IN BUFFY MORE TASTE-FULL...
Hmm.... It’s funny that people are using these comments as yet another excuse to blast SMG. This is a just another testament to her professionalism as an actor: She felt degraded doing it, but she did it anyway...because that’s her job. And her getting paid for it, or having "million dollar bills", doesn’t have anything to do with how the scenes made her feel personally.
People need to get over it already - Sarah Michelle Gellar doesn’t owe any of you *anything*.
Why dont u all just back the fucking hell off. If u bother read the rest of the article u see what she says about Buffy. She says how she loved doing it and she will still proberly cry about it over in years to come. She said it was one of the the best periods of her life. In other mags she has said how she will miss it and stuff.
That proves u dont know what ur talking about so shut up. Without SMG u wouldnt hav Buffy and if she’s such a bad actress why do u watch it and why did it last 7 seasons.
Geez peoplw today. She is gorgeous and extremly tlaented and very very sweet to her fans..watch any interview god u losers.
Two fight scenes in every episode? Wah. The series was Buffy The VAMPIRE SLAYER, honey. What did you think your character was supposed to do? Fight scenes were just part of it. If you didn’t like it, you should have found a show called Buffy the makeup artist. Buffy the Pampered One. Whatever.
The sex scenes were a different thing. Yes, it was dark and degrading, both for characters and actors, but it "fit" for the place that Buffy was in after her resurrection. Maybe it could have been a bit more discreet? I’ll never understand why she is whining now, instead of putting her foot down a few years ago and demanding a little discretion.
If she was uncomfortable doing the scenes, she could have spoken up. I am sure that they would have respected her feelings.
Get over it, as for her acting talents, I felt that she just wasn’t into it ( the last season) I was disappointed.
James, however , gave it his all. Which could explain why he still has a job.
You guys need to grow up. "Oh she should thank her lucky stars to get to do it with Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaames" and similar is something an immature child year old would say.
Sarah has talked in the past about how much she made Buffy her own. Buffy was feeling degraded so I can believe that Sarah felt the same way. I can guess what scenes she meant:
Smashed, Doublemeat Place, Gone, Deadthings, and the atempted rape in "Seeing Red" added with what the writers made Buffy’s reactions be to it the next episode and season. It made Buffy feel awful, look awful and that left Sarah in the same boat.
Does Sarah ever have anything good to say about her time on Buffy? She was degraded—yet she still did it. I’m sure Joss didn’t have a "bondage-fun with Spike" clause in her contract that made her have to do it. For once I’d like to read an interview/snippit/blurb/ something from SMG where she says something nice about the show/character that made her the star she is today.
You have just confirmed what i thinked about your conversation.
Ok i’am really deseappointed too but it’s not a reason to say all this about her.
1.Nobody know really who is responsable or decided this.
2.Where have you finded your information, i hear too many time this sing but never from Sarah her self (comportement or paroles).
3.What know us (her friends or ennemies) said she is a working girl.
When you known your job you have more inssurance
4.Seven years yet every days and don’t for "the monney" in compareason off work.
now i have a question almost off us how many time have we said i’am borried... too much work if it’is no more....
i’am sure we said all at the end off the day(night)"every thing is good" "wonderfull day, no problems...etc etc"
And now have you read "the name off this site "
What are you going here!!!!Oops
Just a coupla probs with this article!!!! Read other comments some agree others disagree. I will be objective - has anyone seen Harvard Man??!! I hired it coz I am a BTVS fan and if she is fine doin that film with pretty visual tacky and damn right unneeded sex!!!!! Why say sitting on top of someone you have known for about 5 years is degrading??!!!
I dont understand that one!!!
Can I also say one thing I have hardly ever read a flaming article with her complementing BTVS!!!!!! Emma Calufield wanted to leave b4 the end was announced coz she couldnt stand SMG amd who was the ONLY ONE who missed the wrap party!!!!!!!!
I’m sorry, but I don’t exactly pity her. Its pretty tasteless to go around bashing the show that made her now that its over. I don’t think she owes us as fans, but I would like a little respect for the show and the writers, directors, fellow actors, etc., who she does owe something to. The show did not stand on her merit, because Buffy tended to be an unlikable character. Its the writers and supporting cast that made that show, so she should stop acting like a spoiled prima-donna. And I tend to agree that the sex scenes had to have been more difficult for James to perform, being the one who was evil and naked.
Also, on the topic of fight scenes... anyone who has watched the show carefully will be very well aware of what Sarah’s primary stunt double looks like, because its very rarely Sarah herself in the actual fight. I doubt very much that her contribution to those fights was so terribly exhausting to warrant her complaints. "Buffy" was a good job for her, and as a devoted fan, I’m sick of hearing negative comments from Sarah all the time.
um...smg was usually fully clothed, jm was the naked one. Being degraded as an actress because of the balcony shoot...please, I found where the wild things are more degrading. She puts so much emphasis on the balcony shot, I don’t get it. I would be more concerned over the AR. And she really doesn’t shy away from comments about lets say...waxing all her pubic hair, on howard stern, so "acting" like she was taking it from behind while fully clothed, I’m sure it was real traumatic for her. I liked her, I try to, I really did, but I’m sick of defending her. Didn’t she have stunt people anyways? And I’m sure there are several photographs of her with her legs bare during her run on buffy. I wish that now the show is over she could be a little more gracious.
For godssakes....she loved being on buffy....how would you feel? her character looked horrid during season six..as did james’s but...and who cares if it was with james...you all realize hes like forty right? hes half his age..
Good actors must be affected by their roles: JM admitted SR was the most dramatic experience he ever had, and he also expressed his discomfort about being butt naked in front of 40 people and in the freezing cold.
However, saying that experience was "degrading" is a different story, and in my opinion, is a big slap at Joss, writers and crew. Unless she was forced in pornography, slavery, or prostitution while working on her role, "degrading" is a very wrong term to use for professional actress. She is compromising herself and her acting abilities by saying it, and even if she spent 2 pages prizing Joss and his crew, this little "slip" is what’s going to be remembered.
I deeply respect Sharon Stone. She was replying to a comment of one wanna-be-actress, which expressed her disgust on Sharon’s being naked on-screen. Stone told her that she took her clothes off when the role required it, when it was necessary to express the character, to sustain the story. She said that the real actress can never pre-determine the limits for her acting (that includes what to wear, who to play, and what to say), because that would prevent her from being a good actress in the first place.
If Sarah considers playing a controversial, confused, lost, but powerful women is more degrading than playing in Scoobie Doo, than there is nothing else left to be said.
I still like you Sarah, ’cause you were Buffy after all, and hope that you just used the wrong word to express your feelings.
For those of you that say she isn’t a good actress...your a dumbass; she would have had to be doing somthing right to keep yall watching for seven seasons. And here’s a tip...go watch season five the body then we can argue how good of an actress she is.
For those of you who are raggin on her because she said it was hard to do....until you get off your lazy asses and do a sex scene with one of your best friends infront of a room of about 40 people and then have to do it over and over don’t moan and groan about how much of a baby she is. I would have been ashamed and degraded also. (and note to the person who said ’stop crying about it! james had to be naked’ no he didn’t, he chose to be naked as did David Boreanaz in IWRY..yum)
(also note that Sarah didn’t say she didn’t want to be in the final episode but Joss said he didn’t want her because he didn’t want to make the last epsiode about Buffy. Sarah was going to be in the one that aired last week in the US, but she was shooting the Grudge in Tokyo).
You people make me sick. You watch Buffy the Vampire Slayer and are all ’YAY I LOVE THIS SHOW’ and then you get online and start trashing the person who portray’s the character the show is about? That’s low. You people are the truest form of the word viewer. It would disgust me if you called yourselves fans, because you clearly aren’t. You need to remember that SMG, or whoever aren’t just Buffy or Dawn or Willow or whoever the hell you are being jerky about. They are people just like us and they have feelings too
And for those of you who are being nice about it...GO YOU! WOOOOOOT
Mommyof3...
I’m sure Sarah Michelle Geller knew what she was signing of for doing a show called Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I’m sure she knew that there would be fight scenes involved. But that doesn’t mean she’s not allowed to feel tired. Geez...
Now, she felt degraded by sex scenes...Has anyone seen THE HARVARD MAN??? was she degraded when she was playng bitchy role in that film, and i can tell you sex scene were much more degrading especially because the fil didn’t really have that much of a plot...how come she doesn’t mention that???
well !! I don’t know where to begin !! (I ’m french so really sorry for my mistakes....) but anyway , you guys are so damn funny !!! I mean : all that debate and those complains just about 2 sentences ??!!! apparently not everyone is mad at SMG, but maybe besides this fact, remember there are other things much more important through the world than that !! Don’t get me wrong, I am a devoted fan, but I rarely post on board and sincerely, I don’t care what SMG or others actors think or say !!(and when words are misunderstood or transformed, that worst! this is just gossip come on !) the show is what matters (and sadly it is finished !!) nothing else to add !! bye
totally agree...plus selling yourself short and being degraded in a crap movie like Harvard Man is much more immoral than being a great actress and being degraded in the world’s best cult TV series...
and anyway the Spuffy relationship was an integral part of the series, and if you are going to show a self-destructive affair based on lust and self-loathing it’s pretty difficult to do it without showing anything....
plus you really don’t see anything explicit - it may be shocking in its intent but not in its portrayal...
OH MY GOD U SPIKE FANGIRLS ARE UNBELEIVABLE..YES SHE FELT DEGRADED. SHE WAS THE HERO OF A SHOW LOWERED TO SHAGGING A DEMON. NO SHE SHOULDNT BE LUCKY TO BE WITH HIM U IGNORANT LITTLE FOOLS. THE SCENES ON THE BALCONY AND IN THE ONE WHERE SHE WAS INVISIBLE SMASHED WERE AWFUL, ITS WHEN I NEW THE SHOW WOULD BE OVER SOON. THESE WRE THE SCENES THAT DESTROYED A GOOD SHOW. IM GLAD SHE ACKNOWLEDGED THIS AND SHOWED SHE HAD FEELINGS AGAINST THEM AS NOT ALL GIRLS WILL DO ANYTHING FOR A NAKED MAN.. TSK TSK.
elizabeth you’re quite right. As for Dee...yes SMG kept me attached to the telly for seven season but as much as i love the character she portrays i think she is not that great person. and she is so rude and ungrateful towards a show that make her famous and that probably will remain the only big deal of her career...now who can object that?
People need to get a life. I have never responded to one of these articles but I couldn’t sit idly by and let everyone bash Sarah. I think I would be more surprised if she didn’t feel degraded. I think Buffy felt degraded by what her and Spike were doing, wasn’t that the whole point of season 6. Everybody should lay off her, I don’t see anyone bashing DB for saying he is glad Angel is over.
Lol @ people using this as an excuse to bash SMG. I used to believe everything I heard but now it’s just ridiculous. Those scenes are very graphic and I’m sure that if I was put in those situations I would have not felt completly comfortable no matter how good James looks without clothes on.
And I bet if she did complain about those scenes and say she didin’t want to do them at that time all of you people would be like "OMG what a bitch. She doesn’t want to do scenes???!!?!? What’s her problem!!! Waaaahhhh! What, does she think she’s too good to do scenes like that now!!! Ugh!! I hate her!"
how can the lot of you say you like ’Buffy’ but then bash SMG?!? she made BUFFY to what it was...
and if she didn’t like doing them then so what?!? i’m sure James is nice and all but still...
she is a wonderful person and you should be ashamed to talk so nastily about her especially since your only reason to bash her is because she’s a B/A and says she doesn’t feel good about doing these scenes. i bet you wouldn’t be saying all that stuff if the scene she was talking about would have been during ’Where the wild things are’with Riley or when Angel bit her in ’GD2’...
so back the hell off!!!
I don’t understand the part about feeling degraded either. . . but if she felt that way, she felt that way. Just can’t figure what that’s about. She’s done much more steamy, not-so-wholesome stuff in her movies. I can’t help but think it is more about other tensions on the set (who knows what) than the scenes themselves.
She can’t expect Joss to let actors dictate where the story should go. And thank goodness he didn’t. Season 6 was exactly as it should have been. Maybe someday when she is older and wiser she will understand it better and be proud of it - as she should be. She was great in it.
she is a spoilt bitch. James was more naked then her in those scenes, he was in as much fight scenes as she was and he got slap around alot more in the role of spike. At lest James is thankful for his part in the show where would smg be with out buffy... on the dol. her films are shit any away
Holy Cow. I hope that SMG doesn’t read this forum or there will never be a chance for a Buffy Movie or anything with her involved.
As far as it goes I think that the ratings show that SMG was right. Season 6 got too dark and really let the air out of the series. Season 7 was better, but still not as much fun as the first 5 seasons.
Dark stories always sound neat, but they can wear you out quite quickly if that is all you have week in and week out. From what I have read this is really what the problem was and SMG saw it. She told people her concerns (that she thought the show needed to be lighter) and they didn’t listen. Is it any wonder that she didn’t sign a new contract? She had concerns and didn’t like certain things. Joss was working on a number of different projects and gave up too much control and there was no sign that he would have more time in the future. So she said "We had a really good run. Nothing lasts forever lets end it while were still on top." The subtext to that was she only saw things getting worse if they kept going.
Quite frankly it is too bad the show wasn’t just outright cancelled. There is all this bad blood about SGM because she brought about the end of Buffy the TV series. If the show had just been cancelled all the bad blood would have been with the network. Instead everyone blames SMG. Too bad because she helped bring us some of the best TV of our generation.
Everybody who bitches about Sarah Michelle Gellar, you don’t deserve to call yourself a fan, do you know why? Because Sarah loves her fans all she does is prase them and thank them every bloody chance she gets, and as soon as she says something you don’t agree with you turn around and trash her. All she does is thank Joss Whedon and Buffy the vampire slayer for her amazing oppurtunities how dare you think she thinks she’s above everybody else.
And as for the sex scenes, you may not think they’re degrading but as somebody very similar to Sarah I can understand how she feels. She was Buffy for five years, Buffy was her and suddenly she was faced with playing a person she loved performing all sorts of personal acts which she was not comfortable doing.
And don’t even try and defend yourselves by saying she could have oppted out of it, as a profesional actress she would have felt she owed it to Joss and the rest of the cast and she is allowed to express how these scenes made her feel! If she really was up herself then that is when she would have refused to do it, but she fell in line as an employee, gritted her teeth and went ahead with it.
For gods sake you need to grow up people, oh and by the way, saying she’s lucky to do sex scenes with James is a pathetic way of justifiying why you believe she shouldn’t be feeling degraded!
Why did you read this article, because you’re a Buffy fan right? Well let me tell you Buffy wouldn’t be half the show it is without Sarah helping to carry the show on her shoulders. I was practically crying reading how unbelivably harsh some of you are being, you don’t reserve the care Sarah shows her fans. She is so talented and beautiful if you’re not praising her you don’t deserve to be talking about her, save that for the true Buffy fans. And all of you who love Sarah, I applaud you for recognising one of the few good people left in Hollywood.
How dare you to call people names and accuse them of being "bad fans" just because they expressed their negative opinion on actress’s comment?!
SMG is entitled to think and say what she feels, and we, as true fans, are entitled to discuss her comments and like/dislike them. The process is called "publicity". Disagreeing with actress does not make someone bad, dirty, or unworthy.
Please, stop behaving like 3-years old and hurting people’s feelings on personal levels. Many of us were loyal fans for years by supporting the show physically and financially. We don’t deserve to be screamed on or be called names by some mentally unhealthy personals.
I just have to say that I’m glad someone other than James has finally spoken about those episodes. While I believe in some ways that the Spuffy relationship was necessary for S6, since it showed how low Buffy had fallen when she was brought back, I don’t believe the scenes had to be that graphic. Think back to Willow/Oz - we didn’t see any of that, but we still knew what was going on.
I found most of the S6 Spuffy to be quite embarrassing and vulgar, to be honest. I know there are quite a few Buffy fans who refuse to acknowledge S6 ever existed. I for one, am glad we got to have Once More, With Feeling, but I hate what the show became for a few episodes after that. In one of the episodes, I remember one of the Troika saying "Cool! Cable Porn!" and that’s what it felt like I was watching every Tuesday night at 8:00 - cable porn. I adore this show, but I can understand where Sarah is coming from. I can’t believe these people who are saying "Ooooh! I’d love to be degraded by James any day!". Excuse me?!?! You do realize that what was shown on BtVS was a VERY DANGEROUS RELATIONSHIP?!?! And that in Seeing Red, that was attempted rape? Just checking. As I write this, I am slightly hypocritical, because I was a fan of the S7 Spuffy story line. I was a little disappointed that they never seemed to address what Spike had done the year before, but it was assumed it was "Peachy-keen" because he had a soul. And, yes, I realize that I am off-topic, but oh well. Oh, and another thing. These people who are saying that Sarah was wrong to say this - are you saying you enjoyed watching this? Just wondering.
To all the people saying Sarah was a professional so she did scenes she didn’t think were appropriate, you obviously don’t understand what it means to be a "professional". She signed a contract, she performed the scenes, then she bitched about it afterwards. THAT IS NOT PROFESSIONAL!! The professional thing to do would be to let it go, respect it as a job and move on with your life. Was she violated? NO!!! As an actress myself I’ve had to do things like bare my breasts on stage in a theatre full of people, but I don’t complain to the world about it!! I cherish it as my best part and treat it with respect for a choice that I made! That’s professionalism.
wow!!, well now I see why all the people in the cast of Buffy never had to say anything about Sarah I think they hate her!!, personally I think she is such a bitch because that role made her was she is now a “famous” actress you know and is very sad when you see that a person is not what you expect. I really think that Sarah loved her character, and that means to leave reality and focus in the fiction, to live in your character´s skin, to felt and act like it, when you act...never felt degraded about a scene because you know is fiction, and because you supposed are an actress... and she do not deserve to call her an actress if she doesn´t accept what a character means. It´s terrible that she waits until know for said that... if she felt degraded like she said she was, why she waits until know?? Why never said anything to Joss or to somebody???....Sarah 4 next time think well before answer questions, your brain have a conection with your mouth in case you don’t know.....
She deserved to have an opinion about what she was doing...if she felt bad or sad about anything she had to do, is normal to said that she felt that way....she better that anybody knows how that scenes were filmed, we dont know how they filmed it, maybe was a very bad experience to her and maybe 4 James too, I think she is a very brave actress 4 said whats on her mind...she is not 100% agree with some scenes..thats normal!!! omg!! James Marsters said that some scenes were hard to filmed and other ones he was obligated to do....so??? no big deal...
I think most of us are more affected by the way she said it, saying it was "degrading to her as an actress" I think she’s a fine actress she did a damn good protrayal of someone in their twenties being under so much pressure...
But I don’t think anything she did on the series warranted those comments. She’s done more degrading stuff on movies etc. and I’m sure she’ll do them again.
As for her saying the series left her bruised...sarah, we’re not stupid. She had a stunt person who definitely did most, if not all, of the physically exhausting scenes for her. Hell, whenever a scene called for RUNNING the camera practically never goes to the level of her face.
I can believe that it left her tired. I’m sure it did. That’s really the only thing I find true in that quote. Oh, that, and her age.
The malice & mean-spiritedness in much internet discourse, including many of these spiteful comments (e.g., ’dry your tears w/money’), is a dreary & depressing spectacle. The ignorance displayed in some of them doesn’t brighten the picture any either.
SMG never dissed BTVS. She said, assuming the article is accurate, only what she has said before—that she didn’t like S 6 & that the nature of Buffy’s relationship with Spike was, she felt, out of character for Buffy & degrading to Buffy. She said at the end of S 6 that she hadn’t been comfortable with it & that she hoped S 7 would be lighter. The network agreed with her. Most BTVS fans (not all) agreed with her. Most of the critics agreed with her. And Whedon agreed with her in part, or pretended to, & promised [this promise was not kept] that S 7 would be lighter & more like classic BTVS, with our heroes returning to form. In the Ent Wkly article on the end of BTVS, SMG named "Dead Things" as her least fav ep of the entire series. Her comments are thus not new or news, but the language ["degrading" ; "S&M"] is more sensational & the press & the Net played that angle up to stir interest [which worked]. As several people have noted, SMG did object to Whedon & Co at the time & was not able to persuade them to make the changes she wanted. If SMG folded & did those scenes a) b/c she was a professional with a contract & b) b/c she decided to trust Joss & co, who had done so much for her career & been right so often, I don’t see how anyone can blame her for that. There is no inconsistency here, & certainly there is absolutely zero dissing of BTVS as a whole. SMG has always made it plain that she understands & appreciates what Whedon, the show, & the character did for her career.
It is also unfair to blame her for the end of the show. I miss it terribly, but the show was wearing out. SMG was like a rider on a dying horse. Joss, of course, had already left the building at the end of S 5. He had clearly lost his interest in the show & could only work up an interest for gimmicky ep’s—although some of those ep’s, like OMWF, were brilliant and showed what he ould do when he was fully involved. Once SMG bit the bullet & played the villain by deciding to leave, Whedon was ecstatic that the show was ending. He mentioned in every interview from that period how exhausted he was & how ready he was for it to be over—usually followed up by a little gushing over Firefly. He said more than once that it was time for BTVS to end. His reasons for wanting to end it were much the same as SMG’s; he just didn’t say them out loud until she went 1st, which left her holding the bag. I don’t blame Whedon for being a little tired & bored, any more than I blame SMG for being tired & ready to move on. I do blame Whedon a little bit for stringing the thing out when he was obviously bored, tired, & over-extended.
As for whether the "naughty bits" on BTVS were more or less smutty than those from Harvard Man or CI, I think that’s irrelevant. I don’t personally find any of them shocking, but that’s neither here nor there. SMG said only that she felt degraded, &, specifically, that she felt degraded as an actress—possibly referring to her earlier comments about the scenes being [in her opinion] out of character for Buffy. It is for SMG, not you or me, to say how SMG feels about a given sex scene. Logic is not required & does not enter in.
Personally I wish that Eliza Dushku [ditto Michelle Pfeiffer in her prime] would do nudity. It may be tacky, but I would’ve enjoyed The New Guy more if Eliza had stripped out of one of those bikinis. I do not, however, expect Eliza [or Michelle P] to rearrange her personal sense of modesty to suit my preferences or to be more in line with logic. For example, it seems illogical to me for Eliza to so enthusiastically [read some of her interviews; she didn’t mind] do all those totally gratuitous bikini butt-shaking scenes in New Guy [even the character narrating the movie felt obliged to jokingly apologise for them], but to be adamantly opposed to even a brief flash of nudity. It seems, to me, an illogical place to draw the line, but it’s not my line to draw, & the location of the line is dictated by feelings [Eliza’s feelings], not logic. The same is true for SMG & sex scenes. What makes SMG [or Eliza] feel bad makes her feel bad, & you & I don’t get a vote. And it is incorrect to assume that SMG didn’t have similar feelings about some of her scenes in CI & Harvard Man. In fact, I know she did, b/c I’ve read interviews where she talked about those movies. Most people [including James Marsters, who has so indicated in several interviews] feel uncomfortable about sex scenes, and young women in Hollywood are in a continual struggle to draw the line between what they’re comfortable with & what the suits want.
The ridicule of SMG’s injuries [& of her comments about how physical BTVS was] is mind-bogglingly mean-spirited & illogical. It is true that SMG is not Jean Claude Van Damme or Cynthia Rothrock, but it is also demonstrably true that she got hurt more than once. Dushku in an interview talked about accidentally nailing SMG in the head in a fight scene. And SMG suffered a fracture filming another ep—by the way, she finished that day’s shooting before going to the hospital.
Note—none of the above is intended as a criticism of Eliza Dushku. She just made a handy point of comparison. When, e.g., I say that she did the bikini scenes in New Guy enthusiastically, I am merely referring to interviews where she laughed about the scenes & indicated she had fun doing them. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that, & I’m not criticising her for it.
She felt degraded. Understandable. Buffy did take a darker turn in season 6. But I am going to say this in all honesty. Sarah Michelle Gellar does everything in her power to distance herself from anything Buffy related, including her fans. Proof? She doesn’t promote anything outside of the show. Voice over for the Buffy video game, Inkworks autograph cards, Buffy conventions, interviews in Buffy related magazines. At the end of season 7, she did not attend the Buffy wrap party. Let me rephrase that. After spending 7 years working with her fellow actors, she couldn’t spend a few hours hanging out with them one last time. A party that was pretty much an honorable tribute to all the good times and hardships they had filming Buffy over the years. That is just a little odd, and disrespectful. Jennifer Garner stands behind her show Alias one hundred percent. And while Alias is nowhere near as good as Buffy, SMG could follow her example of how to treat fans, and co-workers of a character based TV show. It shows the true character of an actress, when they have a positive attitude toward a show they are carrying.
OMG! Why are people making a such a big deal out of this?! She felt degraded.....so what?! I can understand why she felt that way. When I saw those scenes I thought it was weird that they had to show that Buffy grew up by doing something like this...I thought it was unnecessary and there would have been other ways....So personally, I think it’s great SMG did the scenes anyway!
I adore Sarah. I adore Buffy. I love Buffy/Spike. I love Buffy/Angel. I’m not interested in bashing anybody or anything or in making any even remotely unfair judgements. But the simple fact is, that unless these comments are fabricated, that is, unless Sarah never actually said these things in the first place, I’m pretty disappointed in her attitude. I have absolutely no problem with her saying she was exhausted - even with all the stunt doubles in the world, her schedule on Buffy was a punishing one and she has every right to be drained by it. The bit I have a problem with is saying that she felt "degraded as an actress" by the sex scenes in the show. First of all it’s a ridiculous statement when you consider her risque scenes in Cruel Intentions and her very overt and gratuitous sex scenes in Harvard Man. Secondly it is impossible for anyone to deny that it’s very rude to Joss and the writers who have worked with her to make the show great to suggest that their work was, in a sense, beneath her.
On balance I still love Sarah and I always will. She’s a wonderful actress, a beautiful woman and, it seems, a good person. But these comments are very inappropriate.
I bet she didnt feel Degraded when she got her paychecks!
An James/Spike was Full of it ,if he said He DIDNT like/want to do those scenes w/ Gellar, For 1, It brought his charcter value to the franchise even higher than it was,fOR 2 - an probally also brought THE rise in his black levis higher then it already was!!
BTW, For the record, Ive never heard of him complaining, just in this thread!
Yes, Season 6 was dark and Season 7 made Spike "all peachy keen" because now he had his soul - but this is exactly how it went for Angel too.
So that was nothing new . . . definitely SMG has a right to feel anyway she felt, and a right to talk about it. But I don’t get it. Buffy was never Miss Perfect Hero, making perfectly heroic decisions with morally upstanding boyfriends.
In Season 2, she slept with a much older guy she didn’t know very well with a terrible past. In Season 3, she took him back and didn’t tell her friends, even though she knew he could be a huge danger to them. Also in Season 3, she looted a store and was an accessory to the Deputy Mayor’s murder. And she tried to murder Faith.
And Season 6 was dark? The character and actress was degraded? Amazing.
I find it interesting that people are saying that Sarah shouldn’t feel "degraded" by certain S/B sex scenes because she has done movie sex scenes like in Harvard Man or other BtVS scenes. Has it occurred to people that Sarah’s comfort level as an actress was pushed in that Balcony scene? That it very well likely wasn’t the sex but that she didn’t feel comfortable doing it because she felt that it was out of character or simply didn’t like what it stood for. Compare that to Harvard Man where she has said in interviews that the director liked to be risqué with sex scenes yet did not push the actors to do something they were not comfortable with.
Also...Why is it that Sarah can’t express herself, even using a very strong word as "degraded" and yet reports of James at cons has stated how uncomfortable and sickening it was to do the AR scene in Seeing Red and if he had the choice, he wouldn’t have done so. Well really there wasn’t a choice, the actors were under contract and even if they voiced their dislike for particular scenes/storylines as long as the producers what them to do it, there is little the actors could do. Except voice their opinion publicly.
Those scenes WERE degrading, demoralising and unecessary, to Buffy as a character and to SMG as an actress. Her character was being abused by a demon. Th balcony scene was definately the lowest moment of the series and i doubt she would have done it if she were not under contract, i remember reading in another article she refused to do it till the last minute where joss convinced her it was where buffy as acharacter had to go. The dumpster scene was also "how low can u go" AND I GOT SO CLOSE TO TURNING OFF Heck half the audience did NE way.
Now i know she made out with Spike/JM but that doesnt mean she had to enjoy it. We know he has a large fangurly fanbase but u dont have to spu nonsense like "SHE WOULD BE LUCKY TO HAVE HIM" She WOULD NOT. not only do people have different tastes but in character he was a demon with no soul and was basically usin her as a upgraded buffy bot.
HARVARD MAN is a completely different kettle of fish. In this movie she was not a heroine and if the sex scenes were degrading its how the character was.
It wasn’t up to the SMG, where the character should go in BtVS, anymore than where her character should go in her movies. Joss built up to Season 6, and he obviously believed Buffy’s actions and behavior made perfect sense and was consistent with the character.
So - I don’t think her feeling degraded was about Joss expecting anything different from her, than her movie directors have expected. I think it was about her not understanding the character.
She did a great job in the role though, and she can spout off all she wants. She owes Joss and the cast and crew, and BtVS fans nothing more than she’s already given us: a great performance.
I find Ms. Gellar’s remarks to be extremely inappropriate. Degraded? She wasn’t the one working in front of the cast and crew wearing next to nothing for hours every day and, no, it was not James’ choice to appear in only a modesty garment. But, reportedly, Ms. Gellar WAS the one teasing her acting partner about HIS near nudity. When she shows some compassion for her co-workers, I’ll show some compassion for her.
Wow obviously everyone feels very strong about this but i would like to take a second to address it, first SMG has allways done things that can be viewed as risque. Think back to cruel intentions when she made out with selma blair and then again at an awards show for mtv, also about the bruises immediatly after the series she was cast in scooby doo as a black belt with many fighting scenes if she hated them so much why get cast in another role so similar? sorry just had to say something.
Sorry, this isnt on the topic much, but it needs correcting before any more trouble gets caused
Emma Caulfield wanted to leave b4 the end was announced coz she couldnt stand SMG
This statement is innacurate. Having attended a convention recently with Emma, I can tell you that Emma was happy the show was ending due to dispute with FOX. And that it had nothing at all to with SMG.
It’s clear that all this venom really doesn’t have anything to do with SMG’s comments in this article. We all loved the show and this venom is all about SMG walking away from Buffy. The show ending is like a death. Some people seem to be stuck in the anger phase of dealing with the death of the series. The series had to end sooner or later. Joss was ready for it to end, SMG was ready for it to end, cast members had come and gone, it was going to happen. Being bitter isn’t going to change anything. In fact, it will only ruin the pleasure of watching the re-runs and DVDs of the show. So while it is understandable that people are angry the only possible thing that all this anger can accomplish is to drive SMG away from ever doing anything Buffy again. It is too bad, as I would love to see a Buffyverse movie. The only way that I can see that happening is if Joss’ Firefly movie spin-off does well. That would prove that cult TV outside of Star Trek can make the jump to the big screen. I know everyone reading this will see the movie, we can only hope that it is a big enough hit to allow Joss to test the waters with a Buffyverse movie too. Maybe by then people will have coped with the death of the Series and will be ready to see Buffy on the screen again.
BtVS was great because Joss and the rest of the gang took risks. Some risks pay off, some don’t. If SMG feels it wasn’t worth it, then that’s one that didn’t work for her. Overall, the series benefited from risk taking. Joss was obviously in the position of having to push others past their comfort level. That’s one heck of a responsibility. Hand it to everyone involved that they trusted their leader even if his ideas didn’t work out every time. Getting past the comfort level is always necessary to grow as an artist, athlete, etc. BtVS was one of the few shows that weren’t afraid to push the fans, too. The rest of the industry could take a lesson from it.
YOU DO KNOW THIS QUOTE FROM SMG IS TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT, RIGHT? It’s not all of what she said in her interview from Elle magazine. In the interview, she boasts about how much she loved being on ’Buffy’, how much she loved working with the actors, etc.
When she was asked on what she wouldn’t like from the series, she mentioned she felt degraded by the sex scene from "Dead Things". She said that during that sex scene in that episode, it felt out of character for Buffy, and the way it was handled, it made her feel uncomfortable doing it. That’s all she said about being degraded as an actress, because of those sex scenes in "Dead Things".
SHE NEVER MENTIONED BEING DEGRADED BY ANY SEX SCENES FROM ANY SEASON, EXCEPT FOR SEASON SIX’S EPISODE, "DEAD THINGS".
If memory serves me well, that’s the same episode that Buffy beat Spike to a pulp. Many fans disagreed with that episode too, so why shouldn’t she?
AND, SHE HAS SILTENLY WENT TO JOSS WHEDON ANS MARTI NOXON ABOUT HOW THEY HAD HER ACT IN SEASON SIX, BUT THEY WOULD ALWAYS TURN HER OPINIONS, AND WORRIES ASIDE ANS IGNORE THEM. HOW WOULD YOU GUYS FEEL, IF YOU THOUGHT YOUR OPINIONS DIDN’T MATTER? THAT’S HOW SHE FELT WHEN EVERYTIME SHE’D CALMLY TELL JOSS WHEDON IN PRIVATE AND HE’D NOT LISTEN TO HER CONCERNS AND WORRIES ABOUT THE SHOW AND ABOUT HOW THE FANS WERE REACTING TOWARDS THE SHOW. IT’S NOT HER FAULT. IT’S JOSS WHEDON’S! JAMES MARSTERS ALSO COMMENTED ON DISLIKING DOING CERTAIN SCENES IN HIS ABOUT.COM INTERVIEW DURING THE SUMMER. AND CHARISMA CARPENTER TOLD IN AN INTERVIEW THAT SHE HATED DOING THE CONNOR SCENE IN "APOCALYPSE NOWISH", A.K.A "RAIN OF FIRE". SHE SAID SHE HATES THAT SCENE! AND AMBER BENSON, LAST YEAR COMMENTED ON HOW THE SHOW WENT DOWN HILL WHEN THEY KILLED HER CHARACTER OFF. AND EVEN MICHELLE TRACTENBERG SPOKE OUT THIS YEAR, ON HOW THEY TREATED DAWN, AND HOW POORLY THEY WROTE DAWN. SO, IT’S NOT JUST SMG WHO HAD DISAGREEMENTS WITH THE WRITERS AND HOW THEIR CHARACTERS WERE TREATED ON THE SHOW.
AS FOR SMG BEING BRUISED AND TIRED FROM WORKING ON THE SHOW, SMG DOES DO HER STUNTS. MANY WORKERS COMMENT ON SMG DOING HER STUNTS TOO. IT’S ONLY THE DANGEROUS STUNTS, THAT ONLY CALL FOR A STUNT DOUBLE, OTHER THAN THAT, THE ACTORS FROM ’BUFFY’ DOES THEIR OWN STUNTS, EXCEPT FOR MICHELLE TRACTENBERG.
If you all recall, David Boreanaz this year got injured by doing his stunts. Think, if he can get hurt by doing those simple stunts that don’t call for stunt doubles, then surely SMG can get injured at times too while doing the stunts that aren’t life-risk, and that don’t call for stunt doubles.
THIS QUOTE FROM THIS ARTICLE WAS TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT. TO PASS A REAL JUDGEMENT ON SMG, I’D ADVISE YOU ALL TO ACTUALLY READ THE FULL INTERVIEW SHE GAVE, BECAUSE YOU’LL THEN SEE THAT THIS FLAMING ON SMG IS A WASTE OF TIME. HER FULL INTERVIEW STATES HOW MUCH SHE LOVED BUFFY. HOW SHE THINKS ITS ONE OF THE BEST SHOWS EVER MADE, AND HOW GLAD SHE WAS, TO BE A PART OF IT.
ALSO, THE REASON SHE’S NEVER OFFERED HER VOICE OR SIGNINGS FOR ANY BUFFY PRODUCTS, IS BECAUSE SHE’S A BUSY WOMAN. MANY OTHER ACTORS FROM BUFFY DON’T OFFER THEIR TIME EITHER, E.G. EMMA CAULFIELD, MICHELLE TRACTENBERG, ALYSON HANNIGAN. AND SMG IS CREDITED FOR THE BUFFY GAME, "CHAOS BLEEDS" SO SURELY SHE CONTRIBUTED SOMETHING, IN ORDER TO HAVE BEEN CREDITED A SPECIAL THANKS BY THE GAME MAKERS.
AND THE REASON SHE WASN’T AT THE CAST WRAP PARTY, WELL, AFTER FINISHING BUFFY, SHE WAS ORDERED TO FLY OVER TO VANCOUVER, CANADA TO START SHOOTING SCOOBY-DOO 2. SHE HAD NO TIME TO GO TO THE WRAP PARTY. SHE IMMEDIATLY LEFT THE BUFFY SET, WENT HOME, PACKED, AND LEFT TO GO SHOOT HER MOVIE. YOU’D KNOW THIS IF YOU READ HER INTERVIEWS, AND HER SEGMENT ON ’ELLEN’ WHERE SHE TALKS ABOUT LEAVING BUFFY AND GOING STRAIGHT TO FILMING SCOOBY DOO 2, AND THEN ’THE GRUDGE’.
AND SHE"S RECENTLY SAID IN MARCH, THAT SHE’S NEVER TRIED TO DISTANCE HERSELF FROM THE SHOW. SHE SAYS THOSE ARE RUMORS. SHE SAID PEOPLE NEVER HEAR THE OTHER HALF OF THE STORY, AND SHE’S TRIED TO TELL HER HALF AS BEST AS SHE CAN.
OH, AND BEFORE THIS IS BROUGHT UP...SHE REALLY DID WANT TO BE ON ’ANGEL’ THIS YEAR, BUT WHEN SHE COULD FINALLY MAKE IT, JOSS WHEDON DIDN’T WANT HER THERE.
Foundstarr, SMG comments in a interview a few years back, that doing the kiss in "Cruel Intentions" was a little scary for her to do. It wasn’t like Alyson Hannigan did with Amber Benson, with a kiss and that’s it. SMG was shy doing it. She almost didn’t do it, but realized she had to.
And she loves martial arts movies, and loves to do martial arts, (she’s a black belt), and she’s recently commented on wanting to do movies similar to Kill Bill, because she loves doing her stunts...it’s just, they can have a defect. There’s pain, bruises, etc. But there’s also the joy of doing them...but the pain...her love for doing martial arts moves in moves, and then hating the pain that comes afterwards, is like a person on a diet. They want that cheese burger. They eat that cheese burger. But afterwards, they wish they hadn’t ate that cheese burger. understand?
She’s so hypocritic!Spuffy sex scenes were amazing!And I bet that prudish Sarah didn’t feel "degraded" by her very modest salary of ...250,000 dollars/episode!!
well,if she didn’t really like the fighting then why coundn’t she leave.it wasn’t only her who had to work hard you know.james was also in the scences.she knew there was going to be alot of fighting when she joined buffy,so she should feel bruised.buffy’s all about fighting,the action.it isn’t some kids programme.
i’m agree with her....i though 6 season was kinda ...Graphic i remmember in Doublemeat Palace the sex scene in the Garbage was kinda Sick i think Gellar is Right ....And..for people who is talking bad about sarah...i just wanna say something.......G O T O T H E H E L L.....S O M U C H!!!
you call you self a FAN she got an openion and you say she’s not allowd to have an openion i hate people who don’t respeckt the acters they made a series fore you and if you don’t like it then don’t see it ok
In my opinion this did represent the low point of season 6 out-of-character-buffy and this is what made it emotionally powerful. The experience of dying changed her etc...
SMG is entitled to her own opinion and in her defense these sort of scenes cannot be fun to act because you have to fake the relationship/sex whatever. I’m sure if you don’t love the other person and had to do a scene like this it would be emotionally and physically draining.
Why do I have a feeling most of you are 12 years old. You have no respect for sarah, or the show. Sarah has never said anything negative about the show. Alyson griped about the show ending. She blamed Sarah for it, but no one said anything about her. Also, Sarah shouldn’t have to guest star on Angel. It wasn’t her show. Do you really think all those actors from Friends will guest on the joey tribiani show? The reason she felt degraded as an actress is because it was out of character to do those scenes. It has nothing to do with James, so shut up. Many times, he’s said he hated the rape scene. He even said he had previously turned down offers because characters were rapist. I don’t hear anyone saying anything about him. And as far as that scene goes, watch it. She has been exploited on that show for years, and it’s about time it was talked about.
HEY WILL V FU! IF U THOUGHT SMG WAS SUCH A BAD ACTRESS Y DID U WACH BUFFY?
OK she felt degraded every actor does somtimes in my opinion dead things was a great episode it just needed 1 more leading upto it maybe buffy under stress... somthing to get it out on spike in different ways, now if you thought you was a big rich actress millions of fans then you had 2 do a scene where you just burst into sex for no reason like a porn film wouldnt you feel like youve gone from super star to sex/stunt woman
MY RESPECT TO SARA MITCHELLE GELLAR
, JAMES MARSTERS DAVID BOREANAS (if ive spelt their names right)
Wow a lot of comments. I personally believe she is an ok actress lets face it thought she hasnt done much to challenge herslef that I have seen outside Buffy. She has done some amazing episodes ’The Body’ was amazing and she brought us Buffy at the end of the day. I am a fan of hers and I watch things she is in because she is in them!!!
But as a fan I do not have to worship everything she does or be offended by everything she says that is not a positive thing about BTVS.
I think as an actress she has done worse things than the balcony scene - Where the Wild things are, THE HARVARD MAN, every actress will prob do sex scenes in their life as it is a part of life - I personally think she and James should really stop moaning BUT only coz it is a bad reflection on them - the last think I do when looking for a new job is criticise my old job or employer!!
I am grateful to all the actors that brought this world into mine ans I will continue to support them in their future projects.
Consequentially if this is seen as a ’dig’ by some people it is not!!! I have given my honest feedback and as a fan it is my right to do so - we were not made all the same and the people who hate her have just as much right to come on here and comment as the people who love her - SO get over it those who are berating others it is a free world (mostly) and variety is the spice of life!!!!!!!!!!
SHE was degraded?? James was the one who was practically naked every single time, though with what we saw on tv, he only would have had to have his shirt off. Sarah, meanwhile, got to be fully dressed the entire time. Such degradation.
i would think it would feel degrading. Her space was violated and i’m glad she even stuck in there to do the scene. Imagine how much that would drain you to do that type of scene over and over again and have bruises and stuff on your legs from the scene . She is not saying hey i wish i had never done the scene she is just saying she felt like people were using her as an actress. And people look up the word degrading and then respond!!!!!!!!!!
You people are jerks. She could’ve been scared to speak up before. And if she decided to quit about it-she could have been sued for breaking a contract. AND it is so freaking rude to say "It was james-why wouldn’t she want to do it?" Uh, mabey she’s the kinda girl that saves that for the man she loves?! AND! "Oh, she got paid for it, so shutup!" YOU EVIL DISGUSTING MORONS! She’s not a prostitute. You have no idea how she felt. Now, she’s not my favorite actor. And who cares what kind of person she is. She was probally practically forced into it, mabey not told. But, she pretty much had no choice. She was embarrased and humiliated. Some people dont enjoy people WATCHING THEM DO THAT! Now, if you’d accept money to do that on screen. Whatever. You’re perogative. Once again, you have NO idea how she felt. ’Specially in the "seeing red" scene. Prolly kinda freaked her out a bit. People, SHUT THE CRAP UP!
she felt degraded after doing sex scenes in Buffy!? Arguably the best show ever?! She Felt Degraded!? so is she also saying she felt degraded after Scooby-Doo?! God knows I would...
I agree that we owe a great deal of thanks for SMG for giving us 7 years. She didnt have to, on the flip side of the coin we gave her as much as she gave us. Stars are nothing without fans. I happen to think she is an excellant actress but ask yourself this how many of the fans who go to every movie she makes go for the main fact she was "buffy".
The sex scene’s on Buffy degraded her. Thats interesting because at least they had context due to whedons excellants writing,. In =The harvard man she should have felt more disgust at those scenes as they were much much worse
i beleive there could be a very good reason for smg saying that she felt degraded by some of the sex scenes in season 6. It is quite likely that is was not the graphic nature of the scenes that were a problem. It was the emotions and screwed uped ness of the character she was playing at the time. Those scenes with spike were deigned to show buffy’s descent into self hatred and self abuse; in season 6 buffy is very much like a vampire like spike in fool for love in the boxer rebellion. The emotions necessary to play this probably draggged smg into some of the same places emotionally that her character was going. This is a little like playing with fire to show its effects, not as serois or threatening but certainly with potential for damage. As she had already been playing buffy for so long it would be hard for her not to at somewhat identify with her. Plus, you don’t portray something without being able to touch something of it in yourself. Actors and actreses who play very dark characters or good characters hitting their dark side always have trouble with the intesity of it, most of them just don’t tell you their real feelings about it in an interview.
Hey! U guys are being real unappreciative yurselves! Those scenes aren’t as glamorous as they look on tv. I can completely see her point! She felt degraded doing it and I felt degraded watching it.
GOSH! Opinions really are like ASSHOLES!
Everybody has one! How about the episode of Buffy they filmed in a 20’ tall tank of water for 8 hrs. while SMG enjoyed the flu? To be at the mercy of some Idiot’s writing CAN be demeaning in itself. I respect her body of work!
Just wondering which episode this balcony thing everyone keeps talking about is? I can certainly see why she felt degraded, I felt almost uncomfortable watching some of the scenes, especially "Smashed"
Hey, all the bitches out there slagging off poor SMG, shut up. it’s pretty apparent that y’all are jealous that she got to do it with james...Grow up and live with the fact that he is way out of your reach. SMG is human as anyone, and she is entitled to her opinion of things. Besides how come you’re all slagging her off now when she finally did speak up and yet you question why she didn’t say anything in her previous steamy roles? And if she’s such a bad actress, why is she the one who landed the role of buffy? why not you? or some other goody-two-shoes bitch? Grow up y’all!!!!!
Just cuz she made it look entertaining didn’t mean she was enjoying it. I would rather hear her true feelings about it than false. There was a point when life for Buffy seemed exactly what Sarah said (and her mom was not there to put a stop to it)but time went on and things changed and evolved relationship wize in 7 (She would not be the first young girl to enter a relation-ship like that) Speaking as someone who too began a job at the same time as Sarah began Buffy , but is still doing it. Some days I complain about it, but others I’m elated. (Tho would be more so if James Marsters was there too!)
I’m sure this is old news. Sarah has said something simular before. I think it’s out of context, maybe to stir things up for dvd sales. The fact that it was so different for her to what we saw,shows what a tremenous actress she is!
I’m so fucking sick of the goddamned "Spike and Buffy" lovers/fans claiming tht they belonged together. Spike did NOT belong with Buffy. Yes i’m an Angel/Buffy shipper.
But I might have been a Spike andBuffy shipper if they portrayed the pairing a bit better. Maybe more tasteful.
I didn’t like the Buffy and Spike hitting each other before having sex. Or Spike having anal sex with Buffy on the infamous balcony scene. I thought it was degrading myself.
Fans try to compare the Riley/Buffy sex scene in "season 4’s "Where the Wild Things Are" and it leaves me baffled. How can you compare the two? Buffy was in love with Riley and it was love making not downright "fucking". With Buffy and Spike it was the latter. If it turned SMG off and didn’t agree with th storyline I say "kudos" to her. It goes to show you how sick women can be to think Buffy and Spike were in love or belonged with each other in season 6.
I love porn BUT I don’t love to watch a porn where a woman is getting smacked around or punched before having sex. That is disgusting to me.
I just think everybody needs to chill out. So she supposedly felt degraded...who cares either way? People have a right to feel emotions last time I checked, in the same way that people who respond to her have the right to have their own opinions. Personally, I think a lot of the season 6 business was integral to the character finding herself after the tragic event of death and resurrection. It basically embodied the idea of hitting rock-bottom before you can get t
