Luckiest woman on the face of the earth. We finally see her. I’m not jealous. Nope. Although, I’m noticing a trend with the girls he goes out with. -runs off to darken hair-
Wow, these pics really look like private pics. I wonder how they got online, or who did he manage to piss off so much as to make her/him want to post these photos on the net.
Had I been in whedon.info shoes I wouldn’t have posted them.
What are you thinking James?! There are billions of BEAUTIFUL girls in this world who would give anything for you! And you pick this woman? I dont know about everyone else, but personally I think she is very ugly and not attractive at all.
Wow !!!!I finally get to see James Marsters Girlfriend.And her name is Patricia..Good name..shes very pretty and they look wonderful together.....great photos....Thanx
12 April 2006 23:38, by Pastiche of the ’Shades of Grey’
There are enough similarities in their facial features to suggest a good match, but is anyone else picking up on the body language? She seems very confident in his affection for her, but she’s maintaining a certain aloofness in all the photos... Maybe she’s just private about the way she feels for him but, James strikes me as a ‘passionate, I love you, I want the world to know’ kinda guy. And previous posts are right about the ‘type’. Long brunette hair and delicate features, me thinks James remembers what he used to look like in a previous life and is projecting a little. Like he quoted, “It’s better to have loved and lost...” I hope they’re happy, I hope it lasts, I hope he knows that there are people out there that care about his happiness.
I think she is a bit of a cow!! He has written a new song called ’finer than gold’ about her where he bought her a yellow gold necklace and she gave it back saying that yellow gold didn’t suit her skin!!!
I am now crushed ..... lol !!! James O James .... what are you thinking honey ? I read the one comment of how the gold did not suit her skin type * sounds very cold on her part. This man is a total babe and yet he has chosen this Patricia to be by his side and yet all she cares about is herself. Thats too cold for a hottie like James. Anyhoo * I hope he finds a woman worthy of all the special gifts he has to offer and treasure him. I am keeping my opinion about how the girlfriend looks but I will say this .... he deserves soooooo much better !!! Conciet and being shallow are two attributes I don’t see James putting up with for more then a hour. Oh and psst James ( I’m a brunette ) and anything coming from you would look good on me.
Hahahahha, some of these comments make me laugh and I so agree on, they don’t look suited. She looks like shes saying oo look at me I’m with James look at me look at me.....bah! Attention seeking cow lol. He can do better, alot better. And ain’t a couple of his g/f been non dark?
How long have they been together? And how long do you think it will last? he isn’t getting any younger..but he keeps getting hotter. She is exotic pretty, but I’m not a big fan of her nose..or her at all honestly. :D
Eww. Yuck...and an ick! He got "THAT" with rock-n-roll? Must’ve been desperate. She is not the least bit pretty or attractive. She’s a wench! And the fact that she threw the necklace he got her for her birthday in his face because it didn’t suit her skintone doesn’t help her case at all in my book. And anyone who tries to tell me that he said she graciously accepted the gift so I should back off should remember the song ’Finer Than Gold’. If she accepted it, why’d he write the appologetic little ditty? Selfish, ugly, arrogant and smug little brat that one is. Patricia’s beneath James. Where’s Helena?
Ok, I’m getting sick of reading these posts from people commenting on their relationship without even knowing them personally! I’ve seen both of them together in person and they look great together! They seem incredibly inlove and Patricia... well, she’s very beautiful! You guys should’ve seen her in that outfit she wore that night... damn!!! She’s also very classy and very smart, so I don’t understand all these mean things you guys are writing about her. Is it because you’re jealous? The important thing is that they’re both happy and they are. Oh and those private pics that are posted on here were stolen from a private blog/website and if anyone can tell me how to report that, that would be great.
I pity you. Don’t you have lives of your own. You are just fans and I doubt even this because if you were you would respect his private choices.
By the way his girlfriend looks very beautiful and they siut wonderfully as a couple, I saw them once in real life.
She looks really mature and you’d never guess that James is beyond his forties.
The fact that James is able to chose between masses of beautiful girls and women supports the fact that she looks amazing.
You say that you are fans but at the same time you say that his girlfriend exploits him. So do you think that James is a smart guy or a dork?
Get some therapy bitches cause it seems that you need it!
By then, gotta live My life!
Oh and Gellar looks like an ugly bat and this girl looks like the total opposite of her, luckily!
To the two posters above me;
An Opinion From The Y Chromosome:
1. According to James, he met Patricia backstage at a GoTR show in Germany around 2004. She took his number down one digit wrong and roadies cleared his pockets out, tossing her number in the trash. Now, if he really liked her at that point, wouldn’t he have made sure that her number was kept in a safer place? Wouldn’t he have made sure that she got his number right? NO! Instead, he goes about living his life for six months (even rumored that he was going as far as to sleep with another fan in Amsterdam shortly after meeting Patricia) while she’s at home in Germany trying all the different combinations of his phone number. Yes! He’s so in love....(gag). Hello! He’s a man! If any of you ladies on here know anything about men it’s that we’ll tell you anything to get your panties to hit the floor!
FACT IS: She was just a fan girl like the rest of these girls/ladies/women posting here! He met her during a time when he was nefarious for having one night stands with his fans. Though, the effort she put into reaching him must have been appealing to James.
2. How the H-E-double hockey stick are we supposed to know if she’s nice or not? It’s not like she makes any effort to appear friendly to anyone. Not like she has to, but, honestly, the way she goes about acting at fan conventions, it’s easy to see how someone might see her as smug. She doesn’t smile (maybe she’s shy or maybe she has bad teeth, who knows), it’s rumored that she starts fights with him at fan conventions because he (GASP!) spends way too much time with his fans. DEFINE THE IRONY!! None of his other girlfriends acted that way.
FACT IS: She may be nice, but, her way of showing it, even in an impersonal setting isn’t enough to convince anyone. Though, this is one of James’ more longer relationships, he may be happy. Hopefully he is. I’m rootin’ for the dude.
3. Real Fans wouldn’t go about picking apart their fave celeb’s choice of partner? What alternate reality are you living in?
FACT IS: If you love someone and don’t want to see them get hurt, you’re going to voice your opinion about something their doing, am I right? It doesn’t mean a lack of respect. It means you care! It’s his personal choice, and he don’t give a rat’s behind about what anyone says, but, that doesn’t mean his fans can’t voice their opinions about it. Positive or not. I highly doubt he needs the two of you policing the boards for him. He’s got a publicist for that.
4. They’re uber-happy and oh so in love? Let’s hope so, considering it’s been rumored she’s dumped him three times already because of his spending way too much time with fans, his crappy demeanor whenever they’re together and beautiful actresses. (I would have ditched her and never looked back.) Break-up/Make-up relationships hardly constitute happiness, unless you’re in highschool. It constitutes the fact that there is something WRONG in the relationship! It also means that the person doing the breaking up and making up is highly immature and unable to deal with adult relationships in a mature and responsible manner.
FACT IS: In October of last year, James told People Magazine that he hopes Patricia can stick it out a little longer to get to know the real him. Now, are those the words of a man who is in love and secure with the stability of his relationship or a man who knows it’s not going to work out? All’s well in paradise, huh......
5. We’re all just jealous fans don’t have lives of our own? Well, I can’t speak for everyone, but, I have a pretty impressive scheduel.
FACT IS: I’m a 26 year old, MALE law major at University of Michigan Law School in Ann Arbor, Mi, I am a member of the Sierra Student Coalition, The Student Animal Legal Defense Fund and the Environmental Law Society. I am a shift manager at Red Lobster (a dude’s got to make a living, right?). I spend most of my free time that isn’t devoted to school, work or my extra-curricular activities partaking in the arts in and around the Ann Arbor-area, I like to discuss politics over a good brew with my friends at local pubs, take in movies, walk my dogs through the park and cuddle with my girlfriend. When I’m not doing this, I like to read, paint, play my guitar and watch football and Nascar. But, when I’m not in the mood to do any of the above mentioned, I like to come on here, where,unfourtunately, I have to read the excrement pouring from the keyboards of people like you. It’s almost as if you people have nothing better to do with your time than troll the boards looking for fights with other posters. (Please do not tell me you’re not trolls. If you weren’t, your names wouldn’t be ’Anonymous’ and you’d have no problem sharing your identity with the rest of us. Common sense, people.) I ask, who then, needs a life? So, I’m not jealous. I haven’t the time for it, really. James isn’t my type. I like spunky, little red-heads.
As for James and Patricia, I hope they are happy, but, if the rumors are true, (which every rumor has an element of truth to it, or else it could not have been created), then, they need to split ways. No good has ever come from a negatively charged relationship. It always leads to heartache.
*Oh, and coming from one of the guy’s only male fans, she’s not that attractive and her overall demeanor in these pictures are enough to make me want to stay away from her. My prospective ladies have to smile and laugh or I pay them no mind. Looking smokin’ hot in an evening gown just isn’t enough.
oh my god, don’t you have anything else to do but analyse this man’s love life. Leave him alone. Seems like there are enough bitter people in this world who need to destroy the happiness of another.
Even if you don’t consider his girl to be that pretty, well, then that must mean she’s got more to offer, right? Like personality for example, charme, witt... As said already above, James has alot of girl to choose from and he chose her. That must mean something... so again... get over it! =)
Oh! Thank you, Mike, for the biography of your lovely “successful” live. As if, anyone ever stopped to actually care. As to the two ditz above mister highly impressive Mike, I don’t know what the hell you two are talking about. Are you Marsters’ personal Spy? Or maybe Marsters probably told you everything that you just mentioned in your ports, ’cause your his best buddies. Give me a break! And you don’t even should start to dare call Gellar ugly. She is the most beautiful woman -in my opinion- that I have ever seen. And I’ve always considered her to be an exceptionally intelligent woman. Truth be told, Marsters would be lucky to date her. He even mentioned in an interview once that it would be like dream to date Gellar; just to show you a glimpse of what he actually thinks of her, and how shitless wrong you are to call her those things. And, as far as I’m concerned, everyone here is entitled to their own opinion, so shut your mouths and go drool over someone else with your stalker-ish ways and play freakin’ know-it-all and board-police somewhere else.
He does not just date brunettes. James dated Alyson, she was an actress, she played the Pink Powerranger role. And she was BLONDE. And she was also very pretty. But I guess this is kinda cool huh? It seems like James dates anyone. That means even I have a chance. I’m a blonde fangirl who’s about 115 lbs, 17 years old, and 5’5’’. Maybe I should go backstage at one of his concerts and get "close" to him. Then someday you might be looking at photos on here of James and myself. lmao but its still funny that he likes young girls...a little too young for his 43 year old self.
Hey Anonymous girls, if you know Patty and James, maybe you should tell them that him dating someone young enough to be his daughter is just gross, and although it is really none of anybodys buisness what he does, It made alot of people I’ve talked to lose respect for him. I mean come on what can they possibly have in common except the obvious. and she was like 9 when his SON was born *shudders*
i think we can say whatever we want
in my opinion i think he can do better espesicaly if she gets mad everytime he is spending time with fans
i bet she is a gold digger but whatever and people stop telling people to shut up its not are business but he can type or say whatever we want ok
i think you all have some problems with your own selfconfidence judging a woman you’ve never talked to just because youre jealous or whatever. this is no rat race. you wont be able to change anything about the fact that they are a couple and obviously in love and happy together. so piss off
The relationship is already dead. Patty’s immaturity and pushiness has seen to that. She’s too young and obsessed to realise that while he may have shagged her, he’s never let her into his life and never will.
If they are so in love, why is she still in Germany or rather right now she is in Oz? I don’t see this relationship going the distance as in marriage because he has made it quite clear that he does not need a wife. I mean, come on. Why buy the cow when you can get it for free?
I don’t know the girl at all. I know that what I have seen and what I have heard from other fans that she oviously is so very insecure in their relationship and his attentions that she gets offensive and rude. She should try to be a bit more friendly to his fans. They can make or break him. Without them, his career could go into the trash. Fans are an integral part of his job. He has to depend on them to buy his DVD’s, his CD’s, go to cons to see him and buy merchandise. This is something that she seems to not understand.
The girl that says she has seen them together, well, good for you. But, personally, Miss Patricia is not the most beautiful girl in the world and why does she not wear her glasses? Is there some reason for that? I am not a jealous fan at alll. I want James to be very happy in his life but I don’t see it happening with this very young, insecure, delusional girl. Grow up, Patty. Find a nice German man to marry and have babies with. I don’t think it is going to happen with this man that is probably your father’s age.
re: above: weird post!!!!
Why does anybody care who he dates, (although the young thing is creepy) but all his girlfriends have been very young, nothing speacial about this one
wow. he looks very happy. I think she seems sweet. Jealous? Of course I am! If he thinks she is pretty, he should try a swedish girl some time ;) No but really. He seems to be happy with her so I’m happy for him. No matter how jealous I am.*growl* :P
These could of course be promotional shots for one thing or another. Should it be the real thing, then I hope that they are really happy together, as being with an actor or actrice is not the easiest thing in the world. I wish them all the happiness in the world.
WOW people get your own life!!! He is just an actor on tv. you do know that right? He is an adult and i am sure he is capable of making his own decisions....
After reading through all these posts and as a huge fan of all things Whedonesque and a devoted JM groupie, I feel I really need to add my two cents worth.
I went to a convention last year that James attended and he more or less told a room full of women (aged in their teens and up) that he personally didn’t consider anyone who is mature (ie 30’s and up) attractive or desirable. In my opinion he really fell a couple of steps off of his proverbial pedastal at that point. I think it is so sad that a "man" his age feels the need to be with "girls" her age to hold on to his youth. I am the same age as him and my son’s friends are the same age as her and the thought of anything happening between me and one of those "boys" is downright creepy. My daughter is a year older than her and if she came home with a boyfriend his age my husband would go postal.
I have also met this girl at one of his concerts last year and she was sullen and rude. Although I certainly didn’t consider her to be unattractive, quite the opposite in fact, her immaturity was obvious by the way she would ’roll her eyes’ when his fans would make comments that she felt threatened by or when James would flirt with somebody. James also acts very differently when she is in the audience, not quite as flirtatious or animated, probably for fear of incurring her wrath later which I have been told does happen by someone who worked behind the scenes at one of the conventions they were both at.
Don’t get me wrong, I adore James and have followed him to many of his appearances (okay that just sounds stalkerish doesn’t it?) but I’m afraid the fascination is beginning to wane. By the way, the conventions I attend are mainly for the huge circle of friends I have made and whose friendship I truly value. And please, don’t think that for one minute that I think I would have a chance with him or I am "jealous". I just think that it is time for some people to get over their mid-life crisis and maybe focus on their future. What do you suppose will happen when he turns 50 and she’s still a young woman in her 20’s? Or maybe when his son turns 18 and she’s still in her 20’s?
I have really tried to remain objective about all of this but I’m afraid my maturity and common sense is winning. Perhaps James’ will also come to light or else Patricia’s will fully develop. I really wish them both what is best. :-)
Even if a man does indeed feel that women over thirty are undesirable it is surely immense folly to admit it. Having read much of JM’s political views and other such serious matters I am disinclined to take him for a fool. Perhaps he does have a proclivity for younger women however I doubt that his obvious intelligence would allow him to voice any disdain of "older" women in public. As regards the remaining comments, some people are worryingly obsessed!
I think James must really love Patricia. She’s not beautiful and doesn’t have a good figure. In LA, no one would look at her twice. She’s in Germany and he lives in LA where he is in constant contact with the world’s most beautiful women and I’m just talking when he goes to the grocery store, not when he’s on set filming. Patty is average looking.
While I do think James feels more comfortable with young girls and that’s part of Patty’s charm, I also think he fell in love with what is inside of her, because otherwise the relationship wouldn’t have lasted, as she’s not all that pretty.
[quote] Perhaps he does have a proclivity for younger women however I doubt that his obvious intelligence would allow him to voice any disdain of "older" women in public.[/quote]
As intelligent as James is, he did indeed give an entire audience of middle-aged women a lecture on the male biological imperative. Not only saying that he found women over 30 unattractive, but that it is instinctive in ALL men to find women over 30 unattractive, and that they will always go after the younger woman. He did this at a private Q & A, at the Houston Vulkon in 2005. Personally, I think he was trying to justify his own behavior; since his divorce he has consistently dated women half or more than half his age. Patricia was 17 years old when they met, backstage at a GotR gig; I believe he was 41 at the time.
Some guy named "Mike" posted above—I thought it was brilliant! You go Mike!
"Perhaps he does have a proclivity for younger women however I doubt that his obvious intelligence would allow him to voice any disdain of "older" women in public."
As intelligent as James is, he did indeed make, somewhat, negative comments about older women in public. It was at a private Q & A, at the Houston Vulkon in 2005. In a room filled with about 100 middle-aged women, he proceeded to give us a lecture on the male biological imperative. Stating that not only he found women over 30 unattractie, but that ALL men found women over 30 unattractive, and would always be attracted to the younger women. James lost a number of fans that night.
Personally, I believe he was trying to justify his own behavior as, since his divorce, he has consistently dated women who are half, or more then half his age. Patricia was 17 when they first hooked up; I believe he was 41 at the time.
Thank you so much for the back-up JUNIE. I was at the same convention in Houston when I heard the comment and was fairly certain I didn’t misinterpret his meaning. And yes, he did lose fans from that careless comment. In fact the whole diatribe on biological propensities of "all men" was insulting to his gender and was rather bizarre.
No problem, LJE. He said what he said, there’s no denying it.
Quoting LJE: "I have also met this girl at one of his concerts last year and she was sullen and rude. Although I certainly didn’t consider her to be unattractive, quite the opposite in fact, her immaturity was obvious by the way she would ’roll her eyes’ when his fans would make comments that she felt threatened by or when James would flirt with somebody. James also acts very differently when she is in the audience, not quite as flirtatious or animated, probably for fear of incurring her wrath later which I have been told does happen by someone who worked behind the scenes at one of the conventions they were both at."
Apparently we are in agreement here. I can’t say that I’ve met Patricia, but, I have seen her at a couple of James’ events. Sullen and rude are very appropriate words to describe her. I would also add, aloof and smug. But really, what can we expect, she acts immature because she is immature. She’s just turned 20, this past April. She’s barely out of her teens. She has so much to learn about life, love, and responsibility. It is unfortunate that James acts differently when she’s around, but it’s true. I’d like to know how someone so young and immature could have him so whipped? In any case, as long as they live on separate continents, and, as long as she doesn’t want any committment from him, I see this lasting a while.
Yeah she seems kinda insecure on conventions. Only in the Mermaid theatre, I said in the row right behind her: she seemed quit free, cheering and applauding and all... She even talked to some of the fans...
well anyway, I guess noone knows what she’S really like. Does anybody know any friends of hers?
I’m really saddened to hear that James made those comments about mature women at the Huston Con. in ’05. I only met the man once but I never thought that he was that shallow. And to assume to speak for ALL men is just the height of arrogance.
I truly hope that this was all a misinterpretation of his words because up until now I really liked the guy. Now... I just don’t know.
I bet James could have bitten off his tongue after he said those remarks about older women. I think he just is trying to justify why he prefers to dates girls who are eighteen (and Patricia had just turned 18 when they met, I have heart this for a fact, he met her at the GotR concert right after her 18th birthday) instead of women who are even in their late 20s or early 30s.
I think he is a very nice man who happens to be very insecure and girls this age make him feel better about himself.
Stuff he has said in the past make me think he thinks the real James is kind of boring and it’s much easier to fool someone who is as young and immature as Patty is (and she is very immature for someone who is 20; from what I’ve heard she really kicked up a fuss about that stupid necklace). At the same time, Patty seems to call on the shots in the relationship.
I wish James would go back to therapy and get to the root of his problem with women. Maybe he just needs to finally forgive his mother instead of holding on to his anger and then he can move forward in his life instead of making the same mistake over and over.
I wish someone would tell him that’s just how 18 year old girls behave.
"I truly hope that this was all a misinterpretation of his words because up until now I really liked the guy. Now... I just don’t know."
There was no misinterpretation of his words. He was very specific with what he was saying. As I mentioned before, he upset a lot of women that day, some of which dropped out of his fandom. I have always been of the opinion that James has issues with women, which I think is quite evident with his attraction to women just out of their teen years. I’m a 50+ year old myself, yet, I don’t hold his attitude against him; he’s still a remarkable actor and performer. James’ biggest problem is that he has a big mouth and opens himself up to his fans too much. Most fans don’t know nearly as much about other celebrities as they do about James. Some fans this is a great thing, until he says something that the fans don’t like or can’t deal with. By all means, you can continue to like him, just don’t plan on dating him, unless you’re between the ages of 17 and 20.
Since originally reading the posts on this site regarding James Marsters comments on mature women at the Huston con. I have been searching the internet boards to see if anyone else has posted anything regarding these "supposed" comments. These comments bothered me and I wanted to see if there were any other posts to support them. And guess what? I haven’t found anything. I’ve seen posts from people who attend almost all his cons and were in attendance at the Q&A in question and no one has mentioned him making such comments. I am beginning to highly doubt the varacity of the previous posts.
Also, I can not believe that so called fans can post such horrendous comments regarding his girlfriend. While I don’t agree with the huge age difference, it is really none of my business, or anyone elses, who he chooses to date. While she may be young she is an adult and if they choose to be together that’s their business.
We should be focusing on his talent as an actor not his personal life.
He is not in this business to look for your approval of how he lives his life. How would you all like it if everything you did was posted on the internet for all the world to see? If people were constantly trying to dig into your personal life? If people who didn’t really know you interpreted everyting you said to try to determine what type of person you "really" were, and then used this hearsay info. to pretend to "know" you. None of us are perfect and under such conditions none of us would come out smelling like a rose. Everyone makes remarks and decisions they sometimes wish they hadn’t. So why do we hold celebrities up to a standard of perfection that we ourselves cannot obtain?
From Buffyfan44: I have been searching the internet boards to see if anyone else has posted anything regarding these "supposed" comments....And guess what? I haven’t found anything. I’ve seen posts from people who attend almost all his cons and were in attendance at the Q&A in question and no one has mentioned him making such comments.
You haven’t been looking hard enough. You would have to go back to 2005 and seach out fan accounts of this Q & A. It was a "private" Q & A for those who paid extra for it. To my knowledge, there was never a transcript written up. Just because you don’t believe it happened doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. It did, I was there, James said what he said. But, do feel free to disbelieve, no skin off my nose.
From Buffyfan44: Also, I can not believe that so called fans can post such horrendous comments regarding his girlfriend.
Just because someone is a fan of James, does that mean they should automatically love his g/f? Does that mean they should agree with everything he says and does? Everyone has an opinion, who is it going to hurt if their opinion is expressed on this site? So, only the horrendous comments bother you? Why not the positive comments? Although positive, they are still intrusive into James’ personal life.
From Buffyfan44: While she may be young she is an adult and if they choose to be together that’s their business.
She was 17 when they met. In my mind, that’s still a child. Then again, I’ve very old.
From Buffyfan44: So why do we hold celebrities up to a standard of perfection that we ourselves cannot obtain?
Because that’s what fans do. It’s human nature. It happens in all fandoms. If James were an "A" list actor, all the comments that you’re reading here would be in print, in all sorts of tabloids. There would be reports on "Extra" and "Entertainment Tonight." What would you do then? I’m sure James wouldn’t mind one bit. If he were an "A" list actor, he would want his name out there.
James is not a pedophile. The girls he dates are of age. There is a big difference between dating someone who is 18 and sleeping with a child of 13.
And while Patricia seems very immature even for someone who only turned 20, she must be very smart. It’s not easy to get into university in Germany, only the really good students can secure a place in their system. In fact, all of the young women James has dated seem bright and have their own interests.
I do think Patricia has a crush on a celebrity and this makes me feel sad for James.
I cant ever figure all you ppl out always looking for an excuse to cut some one down I saw James awhile back in downtown Santa Monica where indeed he was with an older woman who i might add he was quite friendly with.They were sharing food with each other and such... they had a small boy with them not sure who he was But if he doesnt care for older woman who and what was that.........At one time i even saw a quick kiss there......so back off fools
I am from Germany and I have to say that you don`t have to be very bright to attend a university here.
There are a lot of freaks who are studying and are utterly dumb. I don`t know Patricia, so no offence regarding
here intelligence.
A friend of mine is dating an guy over fourty and she is just 19. It is making me sick but if both are convinced that
it is love, what should I do? This is the great thing about love, that you cannot define it, it is coming from our hearts!
I think that the only person who should be allowed to judge this relationship is the son of James, if he likes her and
still gets the attention by his dad that he deserves than everything is fine! Now, because i agree with the other fans
that someday this age difference won`t work out or he is going to be the next Hugh Hefner! :-)
Hopefully I did not made to many mistakes and it makes a certain sense ;-)
Quoting devoted fan: " I saw James awhile back in downtown Santa Monica where indeed he was with an older woman who i might add he was quite friendly with.They were sharing food with each other and such... they had a small boy with them not sure who he was But if he doesnt care for older woman who and what was that........."
Did you ever consider that this "older woman" was James’ ex-wife, and, the boy with them was their son? It seems to me that, since his divorce, James hasn’t dated anyone (that we’re aware of) over the age of 25; I think one girl was actually 23 when then dated. Again, as far as the fans know, this 23 year old was the oldest James has dated since his divorce.
I wouldn’t go as far as to say that James is a pedophile, but, there’s no denying that he does like his women very young; just barely legal. Maybe a lot of it has to do with him likeing to be in control of his women; he doesn’t want someone who’s independent and has a mind of her own. Seventeen to twenty year olds are more likely to look up to him, like a father figure, and do or be whatever he wants. Total speculation on my part.
@ devoted fan : I think it was probably his ex-wife, Liane Davidson, an their son, Sullivan. If it was, then you were probably pretty lucky and you didn’t know it; I’ve always wanted to see a picture of the little boy. ^º^
no the boy was younger than his son and called him james 2 or 3 times and i am definately sure it wasnt his ex wife have seen pics of her for the theater.
oh my god shes ugly!!!and is only 20yrs old wow...i cant believe wot james is doin!! and if he gave me a necklace i would take it! not say it does match my skin type...
Can you tell us when this was? I would love to think of James dating a woman in her late 20s or early 30s who has her own child. I think she would understand the demands of fatherhood and just be more understanding in general.
I don’t know why James always goes for drama in his life. I think he’s a very smart man intellectually and a nice person but emotionally immature and he probably thinks the way Spike does about real love being all fireworks and passion and not about trust.
I admit I dislike Patty who sounds like a real brat. I would love to hear at James’s upcoming event on the Queen Mary that he has found a woman who is in her late 20s at least. That would show he’s grown up some.
I don’t think James picks these young girls because they’re easier to control because these young things always seem to be in charge. He’s mentioned changing his shoes because Helena didn’t like them and getting a tan over the summer,even thought Joss didn’t like it, because Helena didn’t like him so pale.
Patricia completely rules his life, making him dance to her tune. Honestly I don’t know how a grown man could put up with a girl throwing a tantrum because he didn’t get her the right present.
I think James lacks confidence and does date women who initially have crushes on him. None of the girls he’s dated have been shrinking violets. I heard Liz was a real bitca, always putting him down publicly when he said something a bit silly. And we all know James tends to have foot in mouth problems from time to time.
All of James recent girlfriends have made the first move. I think James threw away Patricia’s number and deliberately gave her his wrong number. He was flattered when she tracked him down and took her crush as a serious feeling on her part.
I feel bad that James doesn’t have enough confidence to date anyone he’s attracted to.
I am thrilled to death.........I was in a shop yesterday and turn around and smacked right into James........all i could do was say i was sorry..no other words would come out. He smiled and said no problem Then turn to the woman beside him and said "Give me your keys and lets boogy" I follow to catch one last look. He took her by the hand and they ran across the street they got into a red car..it had nebraska plates on could not catch the plate number to much traffic.......think guys who does he know in this state thats our mystery lady
Quoting Jay: i know her she is my neighbour nice girl very young.
Who do you know? Patricia? Yes, she’s young, but, can you tell us anything else about her? From a lot of fan accounts she doesn’t seem like a very nice girl. She comes across as rather spoiled and bratty.
Quoting Kindra: I was in a shop yesterday and turn around and smacked right into James........all i could do was say i was sorry..no other words would come out. He smiled and said no problem Then turn to the woman beside him and said "Give me your keys and lets boogy"
Can you describe what this woman looked like? Did she look very young? Since Patricia is from Germany, is not likely that she would be driving a car with Nebraska plates.
GOd, I’m relieved to find this forum. I thought I was the only one to dislike (being polite) patricia!’Cause on the conventions I attended everyone seemed to be thanking her ’for making James such a cheerful character again’... pah!
Quoting wanda: "GOd, I’m relieved to find this forum. I thought I was the only one to dislike (being polite) patricia!’Cause on the conventions I attended everyone seemed to be thanking her ’for making James such a cheerful character again’... pah!"
Cheerful character?!?!?!? Have these people listened to the words of some of his songs? They’re full of self-pity, angst, pathetic groveling and begging for forgiveness! What I think Patricia has done for James is filled him with so much negative emotion that he’s writing more songs, but, not happy songs. She is his muse to write sad, bluesy type stuff. You say people were actually thanking Patricia? Like actually going up and talking to her???? Did she respond in any civilized or friendly way, or, did she maintain that smug look on her face, and ignore these people? If you’re really interested in discussions about Patricia, you might want to check out a new Yahoo group called Marsters Sanctuary. I’m not sure of the link, but, if you can get onto Yahoo and do a search of their groups, you should find it. Trust me, there are many, many fans of James who really don’t like Patricia, it’s just that a lot of the James fan sites strongly discourage any discussions about James’ private life, and, his current g/f is considered part of his private life. Even though he freely talks about her and has had her accompany him to various fan events.
Junie sure does like to quote ppl doesnt she..........beside some ppl take affense t being quoted and ya are right on one thing though if James wants the world to know who he is sleeping with let him say so lets not all of us just assume who it really is
He said to his convention that his priority is raising his children & has no time to date.
Well if I was the girlfriend I would be really sad to hear that..
look like she is just an "extra" in his life & he sees her when he wants, not something too serious.
From what I’ve heard and read, it doesn’t sound like they are very happy together. James actually said, during his Q & A, that he would spend a month off with his kids, or, alone on a desert island. When asked if he would bring someone, at first he said "my girl friend" then he said "no, that would be good for a couple of days, then the fighting would start. Holy cow! He admitted to an audience full of people that he’d rather be alone then spend any length of time with Patricia! I really don’t know what to make of this relationship.
Thisis just the scariest most pathetic forum I’ve ever read in my long online life. JM fans worse than Harry Potter fandom? I find it hard to believe, but it is so.
I heard from his own lips that he has no time for dating. He is a single parent, sees his gf about once every 6 months for a couple of days and it is what it is. Nothing more. I don’t believe he has anything invested in this one and if he has another woman on the hook, good for him.
If you want to read what convention attendees reported at the time James made those remarks about older women, follow the link below to find those reports.
Maybe James hang up with older women is limited to those who act old.........cause his present lady friend he has been seen with acts just like him open and friendly and full of life
I’m not into the "rumor mill’ but I find it interesting that I’ve seen nothing on any of the fan boards about whether or not Patricia was sighted at the Queen Mary event, or if he made any mention of her. I’d love to think he has a real woman in his life, rather than a girl half his age.
I was at the QM event and as far as I can remember, I didn’t hear anything mentioned about her except for the comment about taking something other than his girlfriend to a deserted island because they would probably fight too much. Also didn’t see her anywhere either.
I think he has found comfort in a distance relation. James and this girl don’t live together and they fight ???!!. whoaw
James doesn’t seem to understand that his relation with her will not work in the future. I have a distance relation : when we are together we don’t fight, we are sad because of the distance but there is no fight (we have bad temper ;-) ) and It is all the opposite ;-)
There is currently distance but they should be apart if they fight when together. Sad but realty It is utopian to think that their relation will work.
About these pictures They belong to Patricia. I don’t think Whedon has the authorization to share them. She shared her pics with one of her friends who put them on another forum.. ahah Some of you say that Patricia seems to be immature. Maybe. But for my part I don’t agree with you. In my opinion James is the only one immature in this relation. She is ONLY 20. She has the ’right’ to be immature ! Give her a break. James is 44, with children.. he should have thought with his head when he gave his number phone to a minor 2-3 years ago, a YOUNG fan blinded by his celebrity or his role of Spike who followed him in backstage and more if affinities. (irresponsible !!! there is another word for this kind of behavior...)
Quoting Chiron: "I’m not into the "rumor mill’ but I find it interesting that I’ve seen nothing on any of the fan boards about whether or not Patricia was sighted at the Queen Mary event, or if he made any mention of her. I’d love to think he has a real woman in his life, rather than a girl half his age."
You would’n read anything about Patricia on any of the fan boards because most of the fan boards prohibit talking about James’ personal life. Specifically any talk about his current g/f and the status of their relationship. If Patricia was on the Queen Mary, absolutely no one saw her. James was freely walking about the ship, either alone, with Steve, or, with a JMLive steward. I read on the Marsters Sanctuary Yahoo Group that James talked about Patricia at one of the dinner tables, and that he said he only sees Patricia 2 or 3 times, every 6 months. They fax and send e-mails to each other; no phone calls because of the time differences. Suffice it to say, he is still seeing Patricia; is in some sort of relationship with her. What exactly that relationship is, is not really clear. I think James has a lot of growing up to do before he can have a realtionship with a woman and not a little girl.
Come on Junie! He sees her more than every 6 months and pretty sure they have phone calls. Last year in an italian interview he told people they have "special" telephone calls ---- The journalist asked what kind of conversation and he answered "private things". That means what it means ;-)
I think James tells him fans what they want to hear because he doesn’t want to hurt them with his private life.
Sophie, if he sees her more than every 6 months, then why did he say what he did? Those "special" phone calls, where they talk about "private things"—I’m guessing the calls are all about phone sex! What else could be so private? If he was on the phone telling her that he loves her, why not just admit that in the interview? You think James tells his fans what they want to hear? If he’s worried about how the fans would react to his g/f, why say anything about her? Just don’t mention her at all! Wouldn’t it be very childish of him to get up on stage and start trashing his own g/f because he wants to spare the feelings of his fans? That’s just stipid, and James is not a stupid man. At the dinner table, he said they fax and e-mail each other, phone calls are difficult because of the time difference. Believe what you want, but, there’s no denying what he said!
This account was written up after the cocktail party, banquet and concert on the QM Friday night after three fans got back to their room. They wanted to get it all down while it was fresh in their minds, and it was posted to Marsters_Sanctuary on Yahoogroups.
The account contains the most accurate, verbatim quotes of what James said at one premium table regarding his girlfriend. She wasn’t mentioned by name, but I think it can be assumed he was talking about Patty. . .
He looked fantastic. Beautiful skin, clear blue eyes, a few laugh lines. He didn’t look tired at all and had a lot of energy. He didn’t let the conversation lag, but took charge of it immediately.
His aura was open with nothing predatory, hard or harsh about it. He came across as wanting to please each person and trying his best to do so without compromising his own needs. . .
James. . .began by mentioning that he gotten a drink and had been bantering earlier with "Stevie" (with "Stevie" delivered with a slightly mock gay lisp). His drink looked like a Diet Coke.
"Steve keeps having to remind me, ’Do you want this drink or not?’ because I keep leaving it behind. It’s like the time I asked him to get my girlfriend and take her to a site. And Steve said, ’I feel like I have to do everything for you. What do I have to do, pimp for you now?’"
James’ expression was somewhere between wounded and defensive — the kicked puppy look. He gestured, palms up and open handed, and little-boy whined, "But it’s my girlfriend."
We don’t know how that one ended.
Then James said, "I don’t have a sex life."
"You’re not supposed to have a sex life," said Echo.
"You know, my girlfriend — I see her every six months for a couple of days. In the meantime, I can write to her or send her faxes or little notes and get those back and that’s great as far as it goes, but it is what it is. . ."
He didn’t finish it.
"I don’t have time for anything else because I’m a single parent. I’m not going to come in and tell the kid, ’Go on, honey and do your homework. I’m going to go out dancing now, but I love you and you’re the most important thing in my life — hey, did you see that hot chick?’ I don’t do that because I’m a single parent, and I can’t do that."
Sophie, the convesation he had at the table with my group on the QM was NOT in th least responsible for asking him anything about his gf. He volunteered it and he did say they see each other every 6 month fo a couple of days and then they write, fax, email but no mention of phone calls. When was the Italian Interview? How long ago? I bet it was over a year ago. I think things have changed since then..
Sophie, I would love to read that Italian article. In an American interview he plainly said they rarely get the chance to talk because of the time difference. With James parental duties he can’t fly often to Germany. She is still in college so she can’t come to LA too often. I bet when they do get together the one who does the flying is exhausted and the quality of their time together isn’t that great.
People can’t have it both ways. Either she is immature and it’s a bad relationship that James should end or she is mature enough to be in the relationship which means she’s just as responsible as James is for the succcess or failure of the relationship.
I put the link to the italian article, if you can’t see it, that’s from buffyitalianworld.com in their scans. Interview of 2005. Yes, things can change in a year but if they meet twice a year, their relation is stagnating and dying.
You can’t say you really love someone you only see TWICE a year (how many days), can you ?
You can’t share your life with someone you never see, can you ?
You can’t comfort someone you never see, you can’t say your share, can you?
You can’t share the difficulties you have in your life.. ok there are emails, .. but you can’t comfort with your presence.
You can’t plan a future with someone you see twice a year because you will be bitterly disappointed. If you don’t see your lover more than one month/a year, you don’t know your lover even if you talk to him/her every day because you don’t see his/her daily behavior. Writings and real life are different things. Everybody knows that.. I thought James was smarter and she.. she is so young, she can be naive.
I hope "every 6 months" is a James’s expression to say every month (lol) because it would be sad. He has seen her 5 or 6 times in all their relation ? you believe that ??? That’s why I don’t believe that confidence on the QM to be the real truth, do you understand ? :) I should show you something, evidence but it’s not the right place. Soon on a Yahoo.
I read the marsters sanctuary but my writings in English are really bad so I read this place like if I was reading my gossip magazine and I have a lot of fun.
Why is everyone so concerned about him and Patricia I do think he has other interest and dont want to tell all you fools for fear ya would stock her.He has been seen with another woman and she seems to keep alow profile cause she has a child too So untill he tells us let his sex life be
People are concerned about him and Patricia because, as fans, we are concerned about him. Things that have been reported, things that James has said and written, lead a lot of people to believe that Patricia, not only doesn’t make him happy, but, actually makes him a little crazy, upset and miserable. It seems that you, devoted fan, are the only one lucky enough to know about this other woman that James is seeing. Well, if he is, and he’s managing to keep his mouth shut about it, good for him! I never understood why he talks to his fans about his girl friends in the first pla
