Question: Did Joss Whedon say anything about reviving Angel as a movie-of-the-week? - Chris
Ausiello: Yeah, but it seems that ship has sailed. These days, he’s all about the Spikester. "The thing is, David Boreanaz has kind of gone to a new place," Whedon said. "He did the series for five years and the character for a couple of years before that [on Buffy], and the thing about a Spike movie that’s different is, well, it’s different. In the same way Angel was different than Buffy as a show because of the characters, Spike would be different as a subject and that’s what makes it fresh. I don’t want to try to recapture the essence of something that I’ve already done. I want to put a new spin on it."
yes yes yes, i am beginning to believe that the verse is going to be reanimated!!! anything new of the verse will create new storylines and interesting characters. and to those `intellectuals` who dont like spike.....get over it and support it!
Yes, yes, yes!!! You know we’ll watch anything you give us Joss! But Spike is even better! Forgive me for being overly excited I had promised myself that I shouldn’t in fear of another butt bruising fall. *g* BUT please give us this... you want it... we want it... James wants it... well he wants it but he’s not gonna wait for long... so go make it real!! *begs weeping* oh and maybe a little (not so little) Xander in it (a new view,,, those two’s fun banter before they find out that they have slowly became friends *squee*) and I would be forever grateful... my boy fix would be complete!
Yes , Yes , Yes , please !!!!! Joss is fantastic and we need to see more of the whole ’verse that exists within Joss’s incredible mind . More importantly MORE SPIKE !!!! yay!!!James omg mmmmmm .
Sorry,I liked Spike and all but the only thing that will satisfy me is Angel. He is the leading man, everyone else was just gravy. Give David, time, he will re-consider.
The title of this article here on Buffy.nu doesn’t make any sense. First, it’s talking about a movie, not a spin-off and I don’t know what they mean by classic.
I’m thrilled about all the talk of a Spike movie. If its successful, it could lead to more movies and/or a spin-off.
A Spike movie? For the love of god no! A Spike movie is not fresh. He doesnt care about the people he killed so the soul doesnt matter. He just walks along says a british catch phrase and takes his shirt off before he lights a smoke. Thats all Spike is. He only works playing off people.
And it will not be fun to see how Joss comes up with yet another version of Willow for Spike to mess around with...
Spike is like the hunky guys on the Romance novel covers. An image and thats it.
Anything from the ’verse will be awesome, the fact that it’s likely to be Spike is a huge bonus since he has always been my favourite character and James Marsters is an excellent actor. Joss can put whatever ’spin’ on it that he likes, I would definitely love to see this happen!
HECK YAH!!!! Spike is the perfect person to start a spin-off. I also agree with Illyria in the cast, if they could find a great way to bring Wes back it would rock. He was the most developed character of buffy and angel and he got a crap ending. I think they will prolly just make it Spike and a new concept though. Either way I’ll watch every week from pilot to series finale
Your probably the same person I was argueing with on other Spike movie articles, huh? Why don’t you ever put a name to your negative comments. Or better yet, keep them to yourself.
Spike is a bit played out... what else is there to say about him? A TV movie would be awesome, though.
Or maybe do something Rosencrantz-and-Guildenstern-y with the verse: perhaps tell a story from the point of view of a random monster-food student at Sunnydale high...
I don’t know. I think that everything related to Buffy/Angel will ALWAYS and FOREVER be David Boreanaz and SMG, but right now I’ll take what I can get of the Jossverse...even if it is Spike. He’s not my fave, but he’s a part of the Buffyverse. And I love everypart of it. All I have to say is...if they’re gonna do it, it had better be good. Cause if its not...don’t do it at all.
Joss doesn’t need DB to create a story worth telling. I’d love to see a Spike movie, and much love and respect to JM for being so willing to keep this story and character alive! Spike was always a fun character to me, so I’m excited to hear about this possibility.
We don’t need to wait around for more unsuccessful attempts at movie stardom from DB before they can begin a new project. In a perfect world, DB and SMG would both be excited to work with Joss on a Buffyverse project, but sadly that’s not the case. So, to heck with them, bring on Spike!
Give up on DB he gave up on us!! Same as SMG!! The are in search of other things. I as well as everyone I KNOW who watches BtVS/AtS never watched it for the main chars. Of course not all of us hated them but they weren’t our faves. I liked both Buffy & Angel seperately coz together I never hated two more! But I watched the shows for Spike, Xander, Willow, Giles, Anya, Tara hell even Dawn and Riley, Lorne, Wesely, Cordy, Fred, Gunn, I even liked it when Willy the snich showed (whatever happened to him btw?)
JM is willing and since he’s my all time fave I say yet again YEAH! I’ve heard that NB wanted and he’s my second fave so yeah if he can come on too! (though I heard he’s going to a cook show or something) All in all we should all just be happy and grateful if any of this DOES come through. People who aren’t, well no one is holding a gun at your heads!
No. I would really like to see Spike, Illyria and ............ Andrew. I mean, what great interaction would you get between the three of them. Xander’s great and all, but he’s not how we used to know him anymore. He’s changed, not the light comedical factor anymore I guess. People grow up, so it would’nt be nice to see him still play the same character without any changes. Andrew’s still got that geeky, dorkiness we knew from both Xander and Wesley in the early years. So he would be perfect to complete the trinity.
I think in fairness to SMG and DB - they played Angel and Buffy for eight and seven years respectively. DB has recently become both a husband and more importantly a father and so it’s understandable he wants time to explore that.
I’m biased I love Spike - and I mean love not just lust. I find him a fasinating person (with a lot of layers). I’ve always felt that his story wasn’t finished.
Sam dear - Spike does have guilt and regret - he just has a different coping stategy to Angel. You obviously didn’t watch "Damage" in the last season of Angel or you weren’t paying attention - go back and watch the last minutes of this episode which include the conversation between Spike and Angel and that’ll tell you the truth.
you guys need to get over SMG and DB. they have moved on and now all the buffy
and angel fans need to get by with the dvd sets and quit crying. give me something new and fresh with spike, illyria, andrew, which are great characters whom mr.whedon could vent his
creative frustrations on. i will love
every episode of buffy/angel/firefly and
watch them continuously till the day i die but they are now classics and what makes them classic is the fact that they are collecting dust. ironic
Xander isn’t as used to be. But, that doesn’t make him any less than he was. It even makes it better. He’s not the ’taker’, but the ’giver’. That means he won’t steal the light of the star, (like Andrew would), but rather would give it. (Don’t get me wrong, would love to see Andrew) On top of it, Xander can give Spike the character-depth he needs and deserves. That’s the power of Xander’s character. Xander is the best supporting character of the whole show.
Ah and you call youeself a DB fan? He didn’t ’recently’ become a husband and a father it’s been god knows long since he was married and I think he’s son is about two now! Bring on more Spike any time any way any where perferably NOT in the freaking WB!
I love Spike so I’m all for a Spike movie. I’m also Glad that Joss seems to be thinking about possibilities and new ideas for this movie too. I’m certainly not opposed to seeing some of the other characters either. Andrew, Illyria, Giles and Willow.. I’d love to see the whole gang again.
you guys do remeber how Xander hated Spike almost as much as he hated Angel.If he shows up his sidekick it will look fake. I also dont blame DB, SMG * my favorite character*, ED or anyone for trying to have great careers just as Joss I doing. I notice no one mentions Joss’ quote about someone esle writing amd directing in his place. Doesnot mean it will be bad but he doesnot get trashed for it. Btw I actually live in the USA and NEVER to a recall the WB doing tv-movies?
[quote]Please no Spike movie :( Everything turned out perfect![/quote]I KNOW! I love Spike. But, come on! Let’s not try to pull something out of an empty hat here. You people who think James is hot need to get over that. Spike’s story is OVER! If someone gave you a movie-wouldn’t you want it to be good? What exactly is there left of Spike? 1.All it’ll be is a ATS movie with a different face. 2. We know everything about Spike’s life. EVERYTHING! His story’s over! 3. Spike doesn’t feel guilty about all his crimes as Angel did. That’s what Angel was all about. So, Spike’s story’ll be? 4.IT ENDED PERFECTLY! James needs to show he can do more than a vampire.
Xander may not like Spike. But, he was the most kind of all of them towards him in S7. Even more than Buffy, as she was only overcompensating for her behaviour in S6. And the whole Xander hates Spike or Angel thing is a *myth*. Only based on one or two scenes, while there are plenty of counterexamples in which he showed to be nice to them.
That said, the most important thing about Xander with Spike is that is that Xander gives Spike characterdepth, and they still have some issues to deal with.
I think the point here is that if you aren’t keen on the idea. DON’T WATCH IT. With any mythology you can create your own cut off point and fail to acknowledge the rest of it if you so desire. Any spin off gives us options to re-emerge ourselves it the Whedon world if we want to. For those who don’t believe there’s anything left to explore - fine - don’t go there. I’d be interested to see what there is and willing to give it a go and I can see that I’m not alone in that - bring it on.
I think you need to have a little faith in the Whedonverse writers here. Besides if you don’t like the idea - just don’t watch it - no one is forcing you too - the beauty of any mythology is that you can drop out if you want to, just acknowledge the cut off point as being the end of Angel if you want - whatever.
I know that I’m not unique in being interested in a Spike film and I can see reading other peoples messages that I’m not alone. It’s about options at the end of the day and I’d welcome the option to see a beloved character return.
Mandy why don’t you go back and watch the two shows huh? Spike wasn’t guilty?! HUH!! He might’ve not spent his nights in a dark room brooding over the past and instead went out trying to make a difference right away not waited a 100 years to do so but he did NOT not feel guilty. He told Buffy to kill him for God’s sake! He was crazy coz of the guilt. He said as much about his guilt to Angel and Buffy about it not being easy to live with himself after what he had done. That’s one of the reasons Angel and Spike began to get along on AtS was that they both understood what it felt like. Spike, as usual, was showing that he was strong and bad while he wasn’t. He was hiding under his persona like a shield but you can see that from time to time. That is one of the fundamental differences between Spike and Angel that made their interactions so great. Which would make the interaction between Spike and Xander so great too coz of the barbs not coz they’ll be best buds from day one!
Spike felt guilty as much as Angel did or maybe even more. Angel was forced to face his crimes and Spike chose to. He thought coz he won his soul it would’ve been easier, made him a better man but it made him think that if he were such a good man to want it in the first place what did that make him when he killed all those people. I’m saying is that the beauty of Spike is that he isn’t Angel. We sure don’t want another Angel coz the one we had was all well and fine. Spike brings something new to something old. He plants this façade of not feeling regret while he does opposite to Angel who rarely wore his frown up side down. Spike has more to him. Every time we see him he has something knew. We know him, so, is that bad? I like that I know my chars that way if there’s a movie/series they don’t need to waste time telling us who he is… we already know this. Spike was at the beginning of his journey when he got his soul… he died too soon before he had a chance to explore it more. Angel had over a hundred years and 7 years on T.V. Spike only had two! Not to mention that if this comes out it will finally put to rest what happened to everyone after the end. I think the end ENDED PERFICALLY if it there was a S6 after it like planned which there wasn’t. JW left it open ended in spite, he said so himself.
James is happy to play Spike again. No one is forcing him. So who are we to complain!
All in all, you don’t want it, don’t watch it. It’s a nice concept. Try it. Please. And while you’re all at it… don’t bash characters its so 8 years old… unless that’s how old you are. Let’s just enjoy our tiny hope. I’m still skeptical and won’t stop being till I see it myself.
Spike spin-off will be GREAT!!! Xander has to be the side kick! Both have issues towards each other and it will be cool to see them fighting again and then slowly getting along until eventually becoming friends. Awww!
Lightess - I couldn’t agree with you more especially about just slagging off characters willy nilly. Some people on a Buffy forum I used to visit did that and it made me incredibly angry. The whole point of the Buffy/Angel verse is to look at what it is to be a person (even if you are not strictly speaking a human being - Angel,Spike and Lorne take a bow) and to not try to understand everyone in that world is to neglect the point. The best Buffy forum I ever found is where felt I learnt a lot from people who loved Dawn and Xander who helped me to see things from their perspectives while a friend of mine helped me to understand some of Giles’s actions that I disagreed with. I feel some Bangles in particular need to free their minds.
Lightess. I didn’t do any character bashing. I love Spike. And, I must admit. I forgot about the wanting to be killed part. So, forgive me for that. But, I just don’t think a Spike movie would work well. Yes, Joss is smart man and can write and everything. But, we’ve seen everything. I just don’t see how it’d work. And, you people saying. DON’T LIKE IT DON’T WATCH IT! Well, it’s just that-we don’t want the ending ruined. And we can’t just say "Well, I’ll just consider the Angel finale the ending." when it’s not. If it’s by Joss-you can’t deny it. And. We’ll no who died. And, well, that blows. And, Spike is a great character and was a VERY big part in the buffyverse. But, without Buffy or Angel...I don’t know. I just don’t think it could work.
A Spike Movie/Series? i will not get excited.....*jumps up and down* I would love to see my Fav character with Xander and Illyria and to those who say he never felt guilty or had no more story..are you kidding? he had so many layers to explore and he hides behind his badass thing but when you see him on his own he starts to think about it but as soon as someone finds him he hides back under the badboy thing like when your sad and you don’t wont anyone to know..and no ones forcing you to watch what ever this is gonna be so shut up keep your comments to your self and let us have are hope..hmpft
I hear you Mandy but if you feel like that then just don’t watch the spin-off when it emerges. It’s your perogative to do that. I’d be interested to see what they do with it and so are other people. The point is that if it comes into being then people have the choice to watch or not to watch and those who are interested have that opinion.
I would be overwhelmed with joy and contentment if Joss were to do a spike movie! You people, all worrying about wether it would be a flop! whats wrong with you all, have you so little faith in Joss? Do you actually think he would do it if he didn’t have a brilliant plan for it. I love spike and think anything him and Joss do together would be absolutely genuis, I only hope I’m not getting excited for nothing!!!
I hope whatever Joss does he raises it up to greater heights than he did before in terms of the drama, action and special effects. When you risk opening a treasure box you risk loosing what’s inside but you can also increase what you put in. Good luck.
I love the character of spike. But josh you owe the fans at least one movie that finishes the angel series off. I wish you would do hudreds of angel/buffy movies but you owe fans at least one to finish the series. If you can put one of your showson the big screen you can put angel on as well. Plus make more money. please do it. a spike show would be fun but i dont know if spike can do a show on his own.
we need at least one spike and buffy movie. To tell about the final season of angel. Even though if you had a spike movie you could do it slowly through spikes memories. David said if you can bring angel to the big screen like you did firfly: serenty then he may do it. So if you can bring firefly to the big screen do it with an angel movie please. Angel doe shave a hugh fan base that would bring in the money.
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